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Re: A summary of some open discussions
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Ludovic Courtès |
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Re: A summary of some open discussions |
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Mon, 06 Jan 2020 14:00:17 +0100 |
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Hi Brandon,
Brandon Invergo <brandon@gnu.org> skribis:
> Mark Wielaard writes:
>
>>> There is no such thing as a FSF steward, GNU maintainers are appointed
>>> by RMS/GAC. The FSF has no say in the topic. You've keept
>>> misrepresenting this over and over again.
>>
>> This is just a legal technicallity. The FSF has oversight
>> responsibility over the GNU project. That means that the FSF needs to
>> determine that GNU maintainers operate in a manner consistent with
>> FSF's exempt purposes, have the needed expertise and that their
>> activities can be monitored by the FSF board. So GNU Maintainers and
>> Steering committees are technically appointed by the FSF (previously
>> RMS when he was FSF president and board member) as stewards of GNU
>> packages. Basically GNU maintainers serve at the pleasure of the FSF.
>
> This is absolutely false.
>
> As a member of the package evaluation team and as an Assistant
> GNUissance (maintainers@gnu.org), I have personally been involved in
> many appointments of new maintainers at every step of the process, from
> first contact with GNU through to post-appointment bureaucracy and
> occasional check-ins. I also have the authority to appoint new
> maintainers of existing packages myself (only Richard can appoint
> maintainers of new packages). In fact, I personally appointed some new
> co-maintainers of Guix back in September, two weeks *after* Richard
> resigned as president of the FSF, which Ludovic can confirm.
Yes, I confirm this.
> I can categorically say that the FSF is not involved whatsoever in the
> appointment of new maintainers.
That’s also my understanding.
> Please do not spread misinformation about the GNU project.
Please assume good faith. The lesson here is that if long-time
contributors or maintainers do not know for sure how this all works,
perhaps we should see whether/how we can better document it.
As a side note: I think authority is not something one should take for
granted. We’re a group of volunteers, and each one of us has just as
much authority as the others consent to give them.
Thanks,
Ludo’.
- Re: A summary of some open discussions, Brandon Invergo, 2020/01/06
- Re: A summary of some open discussions,
Ludovic Courtès <=
- Re: A summary of some open discussions, Brandon Invergo, 2020/01/06
- Re: A summary of some open discussions, Brandon Invergo, 2020/01/06
- Re: A summary of some open discussions, Andy Wingo, 2020/01/06
- Re: A summary of some open discussions, Andreas Enge, 2020/01/06
- Re: A summary of some open discussions, nylxs, 2020/01/08
- Re: A summary of some open discussions, Andreas Enge, 2020/01/08
- Re: A summary of some open discussions, Jean Louis, 2020/01/08
- Re: A summary of some open discussions, nylxs, 2020/01/08
- Re: A summary of some open discussions, Samuel Thibault, 2020/01/08
- Re: A summary of some open discussions, Brandon Invergo, 2020/01/08