Re: [Gnumed-devel] Estimated age

[vbanait]

Rather than years (dob), we should add estimated age as a field. The
calculated year should be used for furher estimation.
vaibhav

On 1/20/12, address@hidden <address@hidden> wrote:
>  >Maybe we just add a .dob_is_estimated field next to the .dob field.
> Which is maybe a simpler solution than what I came up with - see
> screenshot for possible appearance.
>
> I agree with you and the screenshot looks great.
>
>>What would be the data type of this value? Would it be a *date* wherein the
>> user >would, in the case of "estimated 80 years" enter       Jan 1, 2002,
>>      or would >they enter Jan 20, 1932 (i.e relative to current date),
>> or would they enter only 1932 (which is not a date at all)
>
> Logically it should be only year eg. 1946
>
>>Also, should such a value be represented on the screen (to make clear that
>> the actual dob is not known with certainty) by use of a tilde ~
>
> I think screen should say about approximate age only, when we are not
> sure of date, month or the year.
>
> vaibhav
>
>
>
> On 1/20/12, Busser, Jim <address@hidden> wrote:
>> On 2012-01-19, at 9:15 PM, Vaibhav Banait wrote:
>>
>>> Hi
>>> Many countries will have population which is not aware of dob.
>>> Therefore,
>>> if we put estimated age as a demographic optional parameter with
>>> calculations of further age from estimated year, it should be very
>>> useful.
>>> If I am not very clear, please have a look at online Openmrs demo.
>>> Regards
>>> Vaibhav
>>
>> Instead of creating a
>>
>>      date of birth variant = year of birth
>>
>> in the identity table (because in this instance it is of no real use in
>> identification) I am thinking we are talking this age proxy as a
>> "clinical
>> measurement" to be used with other clinical parameters in things like
>> risk
>> prediction.
>>
>> I am wondering therefore whether this entity could fit into a clinical
>> measurement.
>>
>> If yes, then for example LOINC has a code
>>
>>      30525-0         Age
>>
>> which is age in seconds at a point in time. Therefore if at a visit it is
>> believed or indicated that a patient is 69 years old with no precision on
>> date of birth, the measurement of age of
>>
>>      69 years
>>      x 365.25 days
>>      x 24 x 60 x 60
>>
>>      = age (in seconds) as of the datetimestamp of entry.
>>
>> In order for this to be useful, any computations in GNUmed would need to
>> have a construct
>>
>>      age =
>>
>>              if date of birth is non-null
>>
>>                      then age = current datetime - date of birth
>>
>>              elif a value for LOINC 30525-0 exists
>>
>>                      then age = current datetime - (datetime of measurement) 
>> + value of
>> entry
>>
>> I would wonder whether it should be somewhere in the praxis configuration
>> that GNUmed could be instructed where to look for a definition of  this
>> alternate definition of age.
>>
>> -- Jim
>
>
> --
> Vaibhav S Banait
> MD (Med), DNB (Med),
> DM (Gastroenterology),
> Ph: Vaibhav:09860643436
>


-- 
Vaibhav S Banait
MD (Med), DNB (Med),
DM (Gastroenterology),
Ph: Vaibhav:09860643436