Searching help [was Example massacre]

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Luise Marion Frenkel wrote:
> I am an sporadic Lilypond user, who tries to keep up to date with the 
> syntax changes reading the user and devel lists. I have to type many 
> different sorts of music, and usually no template fits me well. I find 
> it very difficult to find the answers for my questions in the manual. 
> When the Tips and Tricks were more complete, I just had to roll that 
> page down until I found what I needed. Most tricks I needed were 
> perfectly documented there, and I easily recognized what I needed by 
> the pictures. Now I have to try to remember what picture (that is 
> lilypond image) that once I saw in the manual is what I need and where 
> it could be and start browsing the One-Page manual. Google searching is 
> not practical for those who are not native-english speeker because 
> often they do not know what the right term is. Images have a 
> universal meenig and spare us of looking the glossary. And for those who 
> do not do "standard" scores, but weird arrangements which are fitting 
> for their practice, it is not always necessary to use the RIGHT thing, 
> but something which does the job.
>
> I am still looking at the Tips and Tricks of former Lilypond branches, 
> which are more complete, and updating the code. I do not think that the 
> Tips & Tricks should be a compillation of all lilypond snipets or 
> examples in the manual for that would again be to much. I just liked 
> very much the old Tips and Tricks.
>
> I think that even advanced Lilypond users need to look into the manual 
> as soon as they do something different. The tutorial must focus on 
> novice users, but the manual has to be also fit for the frequent users.

I read the announcment projects for 2.5, but why is there only one 
thread speaking about a forum ?
As a Gentoo user, I like a lot the idear of a forum.
Not for the anounce or the devel things, but for users.
Did you saw the number of spam on the mailing list archive ?
On a forum you can folow a discution, make realy precise search, put 
pictures, format the answer with [quote] and [cite],have diffrent forum 
for diffrent purpose (output, lirycs, ancient notation, jazz,...) or 
diffrent languages.

The trick is to have a strict synthax, for exemple,

[lily version] my problem (solved) / ()
Or
[general group] my problem (solved) / ()

The (solved) is realy cool when looking for a quick search. Whe decided, 
on the gentoo french forum to put it when the problem is solved and 
nothing when non-solved (it's better for searching) but you say unsolved 
in english so there's no problem.

For me it's a realy efficient tool.
Maybee you prefre wiki, maybee both are complémentary.
But lily need something like that.

It was just an idear for making lilypond easer to use.

Olivier.

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Olivier Guéry <address@hidden>