Re: Patch: issue #659

[Alexander Kobel]

Marc Hohl wrote:
> Alexander Kobel schrieb:
> > Marc Hohl wrote:
> > > Trevor Daniels schrieb:
> > > > It is easy
> > > > for a user to move the sign to the end of the staff lines with
> > > >
> > > >    \once \override Score.BarLine #'extra-offset = #'(1 . 0)
> > > >    \once \override Score.SpanBar #'extra-offset = #'(1 . 0)
> > > > [...]
> > > Would it make sense to provide another varsegno symbol which looks 
> > > exactly as
> > > the one I have drawn, but has no positive witdh (to the right of the 
> > > center)?
> >
> > This sounds more elegant than the tweak above, but I'm not sure if 
> > this alone is worth the effort of an additional symbol.
> Me, too. It still feels somewhat clumsy to do it in this way, but on the 
> other hand - if it looks alright,
> one more sign in the font should not be a big problem.

I just noticed that the 'extra-offset won't influence the spacing of the 
notes before the bar line.  The better property to tweak should be the 
right-edge extra space, but this does not work if the line ends 
prematurely.  (See the attached example.)
Still, like Trevor I'm not sure why modifying the X-extent does not work 
- this should be the favourite option, theoretically equivalent to 
another glyph without positive width, right?

> > Another idea: Is it possible to have a double bar line at the end of a 
> > line, and the segno bar line at the beginning of the next?  What about 
> > ".S" doing this, as opposed to "S", or have an additional "||S" and 
> > "S||"?
> I must admit that I don't have lots of references for this symbol and 
> its use. If this is a sensible
> default, there is no problem in defining ".S" just doing what you 
> proposed. Can you do some investigations?
> As you posted the examples in the tracker, I think you are the most 
> important source of informations here ;-)

I don't really know if I saw the "||-before-break, S-after-break" 
combination, but I think it makes sense to offer it since coda parts are 
often seperated by double bar lines when the "default" segno sign is 
above them.
I'll see what I can find in real examples.  I don't think I have 
anything more at my place, though, so I'll have to look through the 
repertoire of my choir.  (Again, I can't remember to have it seen in any 
non-Bosworth & Co. scores...)  I'll give you feedback ASAP.


Cheers,
Alexander