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Re: How to procede with \override/\revert business
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Keith OHara |
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Re: How to procede with \override/\revert business |
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Tue, 30 Oct 2012 03:45:44 +0000 (UTC) |
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Trevor Daniels <t.daniels <at> treda.co.uk> writes:
> David Kastrup wrote Sunday, October 28, 2012 4:34 PM
>
> > <URL:http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2934>.
> >
> > If we are going through with this one, it means that the
> > override/revert/overrideProperty syntax presented to users is
> > fundamentally different from before.
>
> I think this is a price worth paying to gain the easier syntax.
> It's hard for long-standing users, but we need to look ahead
> and consider the (hopefully larger number of) future users.
> For them it will be far easier to understand (although we'll
> need to rename X-offset and friends to simplify the documentation.)
>
It all looks good to me. I was worried a bit that having a dot instead
of a space between the required parts of an override would leave us
confused when trying to adapt an unfamiliar construction in the manual:
\override Baillithe.Gas.U-airde = #3
But now I think that, by the time anybody would be copying this from
the manual, he has figured out the terms for the height (airde) of a
stem (gas) and would naturally understand that
\override Gas.U-airde = #3 % makes sense
\override Baillithe.Gas = #3 % is nonsense
LilyPond doesn't understand the meanings of the words, so David has
the parser searching the data structure initialized by define-grobs.scm
to learn whether Baillithe or Gas is a grob. (Presumably Gas would be
defined therein, if LilyPond were to use Irish as the input language.)
I timed LilyPond setting the percussion parts of a symphony, where she
has to read all the instruments' parts to set a few cue notes. I figure
this is a realistic example where a slower parser might be noticed.
The latest dev/syntax is only 1% slower than a checkout from before the
first syntax change on this topic.
Testing with various typos and simulated-misunderstanding of the syntax,
I always got a reasonable warning. The messages pointed to the troublesome
point in my input, which makes things pretty clear all by itself.
Unifying \override and \set seems harder now. In
\set MarkLine.fontSize = #-3
the use of \set tells LilyPond that there will be no Grob involved, but in
\override MarkLine.fontSize = #-3
LilyPond will probably worry that she can find no Grob definition for
MarkLine, because MarkLine is a context I define later, in my layout{} block.
- How to procede with \override/\revert business, David Kastrup, 2012/10/28
- Re: How to procede with \override/\revert business, David Kastrup, 2012/10/28
- Re: How to procede with \override/\revert business, Trevor Daniels, 2012/10/28
- Re: How to procede with \override/\revert business,
Keith OHara <=
- Re: How to procede with \override/\revert business, David Kastrup, 2012/10/30
- Re: How to procede with \override/\revert business, Keith OHara, 2012/10/31
- Re: How to procede with \override/\revert business, David Kastrup, 2012/10/31
- Re: How to procede with \override/\revert business, Janek Warchoł, 2012/10/31
- Re: How to procede with \override/\revert business, David Kastrup, 2012/10/31
- Re: How to procede with \override/\revert business, Janek Warchoł, 2012/10/31
- Re: How to procede with \override/\revert business, David Kastrup, 2012/10/31
- Re: How to procede with \override/\revert business, Thomas Morley, 2012/10/31
Re: How to procede with \override/\revert business, David Kastrup, 2012/10/28