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Re: Compound time signature style
From: |
Hans Aberg |
Subject: |
Re: Compound time signature style |
Date: |
Fri, 7 Nov 2014 14:23:56 +0100 |
> On 7 Nov 2014, at 13:45, David Kastrup <address@hidden> wrote:
>
> Hans Aberg <address@hidden> writes:
>
>>> On 7 Nov 2014, at 11:38, David Kastrup <address@hidden> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hans Aberg <address@hidden> writes:
>>>
>>>>> On 7 Nov 2014, at 10:08, David Kastrup <address@hidden> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The question was when to use 4/4 and when to use C in a time
>>>>> signature. This is not related to the accent structure of the music
>>>>> as much as it is to the century of its origin and the conventions
>>>>> used in its respective music field. Math does not provide answers to
>>>>> the particular distinction this thread is about since the math behind
>>>>> C and 4/4 is quite the same.
>>>>
>>>> The “+” notation I think is quite recent, possibly invented by Béla
>>>> Bartók and Vinko Žganec for the description of Balkan meters. So the
>>>> use of anything else than numerals is a modernity.
>>>
>>> We are talking about the use of C for 4/4. I doubt many people consider
>>> that a modernity.
>>
>> In the compound time signatures “+” notation, that would be.
>
> I quote what the current discussion is about (cf
> <URL:http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnu.lilypond.devel/59535>):
>
> One more case: \compoundMeter #’(n d). The current implementation
> prints this as a fraction (n/d), but I plan to change it to honor the
> style unless somebody objects.
From what I can see in some books, one normally writes 4/4, but if one so
likes, one may write C instead. Particularly popular music may refer the
latter, since this meter is very common.
> There is no "+" involved in that topic at all. You quote this and my
> reply to it in
> <URL:http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnu.lilypond.devel/59538>
> before adding a complex treatise not at all related to that particular
> problem.
I believe that the original intent of \compundMeter was to eventually capture
what I described.
> It takes considerable work going through those mathematical
> elaborations, and if one finds at the end that it is not even relevant
> to the question, that's mostly a wasted effort, likely affecting the
> willingness of the reader to read through further similar postings.
>
> The end result then is that everybody's effort, including your own, is
> wasted. Making sure that a reply applies to the question before
> investing a lot of work saves everyone disappointment.
Now you are intent of taking it in another direction.
- Re: Compound time signature style, (continued)
- Re: Compound time signature style, Hans Aberg, 2014/11/06
- Re: Compound time signature style, David Kastrup, 2014/11/06
- Re: Compound time signature style, Hans Aberg, 2014/11/06
- Re: Compound time signature style, David Kastrup, 2014/11/06
- Re: Compound time signature style, Hans Aberg, 2014/11/06
- Re: Compound time signature style, David Kastrup, 2014/11/07
- Re: Compound time signature style, Hans Aberg, 2014/11/07
- Re: Compound time signature style, David Kastrup, 2014/11/07
- Re: Compound time signature style, Hans Aberg, 2014/11/07
- Re: Compound time signature style, David Kastrup, 2014/11/07
- Re: Compound time signature style,
Hans Aberg <=
- Re: Compound time signature style, Dan Eble, 2014/11/06
- Re: Compound time signature style, David Kastrup, 2014/11/07
- Re: Compound time signature style, Dan Eble, 2014/11/07
- Re: Compound time signature style, Hans Aberg, 2014/11/07
- Re: Compound time signature style, David Kastrup, 2014/11/07
- Re: Compound time signature style, Hans Aberg, 2014/11/07
- Re: Compound time signature style, Hans Aberg, 2014/11/07