Re: SMuFL name mapping update, 17 March

[Benkő Pál]

Hi Owen,

Owen Lamb <owendlamb@gmail.com> ezt írta (időpont: 2022. márc. 19., Szo, 7:38):
>
> Hi Benkő,
>
> On 3/17/22 10:05, Benkő Pál wrote:
>
> re the longest rests:
> 1. a perfect longa rest and a maxima rest are not the same;
> 2. a perfect longa rest should take three spaces (like current
> emmentaler rests.M3mensural), not four (as, I fear, the bravura
> mensuralRestLongaPerfecta implies)
> 3. a maxima rest consists of two (or three) longa rests, similar to
> rests.M3neomensural, so much that theoretically one can't tell a
> maxima rest from two (three) longa rests.  renaissance version of
> multimeasure rests use groups of longa rests at different staff
> positions, like
> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/aa/Ockeghem_Prolationum_Kyrie.jpg/220px-Ockeghem_Prolationum_Kyrie.jpg
>
> OK. Then I think rests.M3neomensural should be given the SMuFL name 
> neomensuralRestMaxima, and shouldn't be an alternate of anything. (It seems 
> like a bad idea that both the longa perfecta and the maxima are labeled with 
> the M3 duration in LilyPond, when in fact they aren't interchangeable...)

I agree with the naming; I'm confused about potential implications of usage.

> I can't check right now, but I think LilyPond doesn't use longa glyphs
> in ligatures: longae are drawn by adding stems to brevis glyphs.
>
> Terminology gets a bit muddled around here. To clarify, are you talking about 
> the glyph-on-glyph ligatures found throughout the SMuFL specification, or the 
> note-on-note ligatures characteristic of mensural notation?

the latter.  I haven't realized the ambiguity (the existence of
ligatura variants of clefs should have made me think a bit though).

thanks again,
Pal