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Re: strut problem
From: |
Werner LEMBERG |
Subject: |
Re: strut problem |
Date: |
Fri, 18 Nov 2022 11:05:36 +0000 (UTC) |
>> However, the longer I think about struts – even `\vspace` is
>> nothing else than a vertical strut! – the more I believe that there
>> is a conceptual problem in LilyPond: There is a 'typesetting mode'
>> where vertical struts have an effect (like the problem originally
>> reported in 'lilypond-user', starting with
>> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2022-11/msg00237.html),
>> and there are other modes without such an effect.
>>
>> What about making LilyPond properly integrate (finite) struts into
>> the skyline?
>
> I'm not understanding what you mean by this precisely. Are you talking
> about a change to the definition of \strut or a change to how skylines
> are computed?
The latter. What I suggest is that zero-width/zero-height objects
*are* taken in account for computing the skylines.
> Regarding the latter, the handling looks inconsistent. I've opened
> https://gitlab.com/lilypond/lilypond/-/issues/6472 about that.
Thanks. However, I can't immediately that these two problems are
related :-)
> Note that, say, a vertical strut between "V" and "A" would also
> defeat kerning.
Yes.
> Have you already found yourself needing to fine-tune skylines?
Yes, sometimes.
> I have always gotten along by tweaking padding and padding-like
> properties.
Me too, but I can imagine that inserting a strut might be easier,
especially if skylines have a lot of valleys and mountains.
> By the way, can you check what your mail client is doing with
> email subjects? Your email's is
>
> "strut problem,Re: strut problem,Re: strut problem,Re: strut problem"
Interesting, I have never observed this before. This must be a bug in
my e-mail client ('mew' for Emacs). Thanks for noticing!
Werner
- strut problem, Werner LEMBERG, 2022/11/17
- Re: strut problem, Jean Abou Samra, 2022/11/17
- Re: strut problem,Re: strut problem, Werner LEMBERG, 2022/11/17
- Re: strut problem,Re: strut problem, Jean Abou Samra, 2022/11/17
- Re: strut problem,Re: strut problem, Jean Abou Samra, 2022/11/17
- Re: strut problem,Re: strut problem,Re: strut problem,Re: strut problem, Werner LEMBERG, 2022/11/17
- Re: strut problem, Jean Abou Samra, 2022/11/18
- Re: strut problem,
Werner LEMBERG <=
- Re: strut problem, Jean Abou Samra, 2022/11/18
- Re: strut problem,Re: strut problem, Werner LEMBERG, 2022/11/18
- Re: strut problem, Jean Abou Samra, 2022/11/18
- Re: strut problem,Re: strut problem, Werner LEMBERG, 2022/11/18
- Re: strut problem,Re: strut problem, Jean Abou Samra, 2022/11/18
- Re: strut problem,Re: strut problem,Re: strut problem,Re: strut problem, Werner LEMBERG, 2022/11/19
- Re: strut problem,Re: strut problem,Re: strut problem,Re: strut problem, David Kastrup, 2022/11/18
- Re: strut problem,Re: strut problem,Re: strut problem,Re: strut problem, Werner LEMBERG, 2022/11/18
Re: strut problem, David Kastrup, 2022/11/17