RE: Reorganizing the contents of the \paper block

[Kress, Stephen]

I think Han-Wen said it himself (though he didn't realize it).

I like the idea if \paper being as you described (with just the six properties).

Put all the other stuff (the outside-the-score layout stuff) in a new block called \page-layout

Maybe, if folks get too confused between \page-layout and \layout, the \layout block can be moved inside the \score block since that's what it applies to the most.  It might also be that a \layout block that is outside a \score block (for the purposes of a "global" style) could be renamed to \score-layout.

Just some q&d thoughts...

Stephen

-----Original Message-----
From: address@hidden on behalf of Trevor Baca
Sent: Wed 2/7/2007 12:47 PM
To: Han-Wen Nienhuys
Cc: lilypond-devel; lilypond-user
Subject: Re: Reorganizing the contents of the \paper block

On 2/7/07, Han-Wen Nienhuys <address@hidden> wrote:
> Trevor Baca escreveu:
> > On 2/7/07, Han-Wen Nienhuys <address@hidden> wrote:
> >> Trevor Baca escreveu:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > I wouldn't ask except for the fact that I've now been laying out score
> >> > very successfully with lily for going on two years and I still have to
> >> > stop and ask myself "Hmm ... I'm wanting to pad systems on the page so
> >> > that they lay out more loosely. So that concerns layout and I'll look
> >> > for settings over here in the \layout block. Oh wait. Settings for
> >> > system layout live in the \paper block ..."
> >>
> >> the \layout block only affects what's in a score. Page layout (margins,
> >> titles, etc) fall outside that and therefore are in the \paper block.
> >> Perhaps better names can be found for paper/layout; suggestions
> >> appreciated.
> >
> > Hmmm.
> >
> > Just thinking out loud here ... so there's an inside-of-score /
> > outside-of-score dichotomy going on here. I don't think I had ever
> > realized that ...
> >
> > So that means that ragged-right (which currently lives in \layout) is
> > perceived as inside-of-score, whereas ragged-bottom (which currently
> > lives in \paper) is outside-of-score?
>
> yes. However, \layout settings default to what is in the \paper block,
> so ragged-right may also be defined in the \paper{} block.

OK.

Hm. So ragged-right can live in the *\layout* block (and have
score-level scope). Or ragged-right can live in the *\paper* block
(and have file-level scope).

Would it make more sense to have the idea that ragged-right only ever
live in a \layout block, together with the companion idea that there
can be both score-level \layout blocks and also one file-level \layout
block?


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Trevor Baca
address@hidden

2007-02-07, 13:02:32
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2007-02-07, 13:33:40
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