Re: Position of slur between two notes in different chords

[Janek Warchoł]

2011/6/22 Markus Pfaff <address@hidden>
>
> Am 21.06.2011 16:16, schrieb Janek Warchoł:
> > 2011/6/21 Markus Pfaff<address@hidden>:
> >> A slur from one chord to another is positioned relative to the complete 
> >> chord.
> >>
> >> In my opinion this reduces readability of the score.
> >> Shouldn't the slur go from the note inside of the chord
> >> wich it actually starts on to the note which it actually ends on
> >> (from a to bes in attached example for flamenco guitar)?
> >
> > I agree that it should do so in some cases, but i don't think it
> > should do so in all cases.
> > Generally when two chords are slurred, only one slur is used. The
> > problem arises when a mix of slurs and ties appear. In your case it
> > would be best to have the slur attached to the notes that change, but
> > consider this example:
> >
> > \version "2.14.1"
> > \relative c' { \key f \major
> >    <c e g c f>  (<d f bes d f>  )
> >    <c e g c f>  ( ~<d f bes d f>  )
> > }
> >
> > Here only one note is tied and 4 notes are slurred. I'd say that there
> > should be only one slur for the whole chord in this case.
> I agree.
>
> > I think the optimal solution here would be to extend slur syntax so
> > that slurs could be defined inside chords (like ties):
> > <c' ~ g' ( e''>  <c' a') d''>
>
> This would be what I'd like to see.
> Would your syntax express one slur (g' to a') or two slurs (g' to a' and e'' 
> to d'')?

One slur.

> What would happen in this case:
> <c' ~ g' ( e''>  <c' a') e''>
> Are e'' and e'' automatically tied or not?

No, they shouldn't be automatically tied.

> The shorthand notation in which only the note slurred into is given instead 
> of the complete second chord should also work:
> \version "2.14.1"
> \relative c' { \key f \major
>  <a e' a'( des'' e''>8 bes')
> }
> This should lead to a slur between a' and bes'.

Yes, i agree.

However, i see a problem now: it would be difficult to difene what
should happen if more than 1 slur is defined in a chord, for example
<c ( d' ( > < f ) c') > which note should be slurred with which one?

cheers,
Janek