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Re: grace, appoggiatura or acciaccatura? and at the beginning of the fir


From: Kenneth Wolcott
Subject: Re: grace, appoggiatura or acciaccatura? and at the beginning of the first measure?
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2021 17:17:37 -0800

Thank you all.  I had read about this issue but did not understand
(until now). I have successfully engraved my example.

On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 8:34 AM Knute Snortum <ksnortum@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> As for the double time signature problem, it is a known (and very
> old!) issue with grace notes.  Click here:
>
> https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.20/Documentation/notation/special-rhythmic-concerns
>
> ...and scroll down to "Known Issues and Warnings".  Basically, if you
> have two staves, both need to have a grace note.  To suppress the
> engraving of the other grace note, use:
>
> /grace { s16 }
>
> ...or whatever the rhythmic time is.  The "s" is what's important.  It
> stands for "spacer".
>
> --
> Knute Snortum
>
>
> --
> Knute Snortum
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 1:17 AM Paul Scott <waterhorse@ultrasw.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 1/29/21 10:48 PM, Kenneth Wolcott wrote:
> > > Hello;
> > >
> > >    I have two (only two at this time!) misunderstandings on how to
> > > properly engrave ornamental notes.  The grace (?) notes are slurred
> > > (so not a grace note?) and occur at the beginning of a bar.
> > >
> > > Now the syntax: \grace { note(s) } followed by regular notes.  This
> > > makes sense because the appoggiatura syntax and the acciaccatura have
> > > only one note allowed prior to the "regular" notes.
> >
> > \acciaccatura{ note1 note2, etc. } will allow as many notes as you need.
> >
> > Paul
> >
> >
> > >
> > > But the grace notes are not slurred?
> > >
> > > Why does the time signature get displayed after the "grace" notes as
> > > well is the beginning of the staff where it should be?
> > >
> > > I'm looking in Learning and Notation regarding grace, appoggiatura or
> > > acciaccatura.  I do not understand how to resolve this conundrum.
> > >
> > > I have attached two screenshots of what I am using as a model to learn
> > > how to engrave with and the result I'm getting. from.png is the
> > > example I'm using, and result.png is the result.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Ken Wolcott
> > >
> > > Here's my Lilypond code:
> > >
> > > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
> > > \version "2.20.0"
> > >
> > > global = {
> > >    \language "english"
> > >    \numericTimeSignature
> > >    \key c \major
> > >    \time 4/4
> > > }
> > >
> > > lh = \fixed c, {
> > >    \global
> > >    \clef bass
> > >
> > >
> > >    \grace { e16 fs gs } a1                   | % m1
> > >    \grace { e16 fs gs } a1                   | % m2
> > >    \grace { e16 fs gs } a4-. a4-. a4-. a4-.  | % m3
> > >    \grace { e16 fs gs } a4-. a4-. a4-. a4-.  | % m4
> > > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
> >



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