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Re: Stanzas with different rhythms


From: Jacques Menu
Subject: Re: Stanzas with different rhythms
Date: Sat, 28 May 2022 07:07:12 +0200

Thanks Helge, quite elegant!

JM

> Le 21 mai 2022 à 18:46, Helge Kruse <Helge.Kruse-nospam@gmx.net> a écrit :
> 
> -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------
> Betreff:      Re: Stanzas with different rythms
> Datum:        Fri, 20 May 2022 13:01:10 -0600
> Von:  Carl Sorensen <carl.d.sorensen@gmail.com>
> An:   Helge Kruse <Helge.Kruse-nospam@gmx.net>
> 
> 
> My way of doing it (based on the way it is done in the hymnals with
> which I am most familiar) is not to use small notes, but instead to use
> dashed ties.
> 
> \version "2.19.80"
> 
> \paper {
>    ragged-right = ##f
> }
> 
> % First stanza with correct rythm.
> stanzaOneRhythm = \relative c' {
>    \time 6/4
>    \partial 4
>    e4 |
>    a2 a4  e4. 8 4 |
>    f2. c2 4 |
>    d2 e4 f2 d4
> }
> stanzaOneLyrics = \lyricmode {
>    Es war ein Kö -- nig in Thu -- le gar treu bis an das
> }
> 
> % Second stanza omitted
> % Third stanza with correct rythm.
> stanzaThreeRhythm = \relative c' {
>    \time 6/4
>    \partial 4
>    e4 |
>    a2 a4 e2 4 |
>    f2. c2 4 |
>    d2 \autoBeamOff e8 8 f2 d4
> }
> stanzaThreeLyrics = \lyricmode {
>    Und als er kam zu ster -- ben, zählt er sei -- ne Städt im
> }
> 
> displayedRhythm =  \relative c' {
>    \time 6/4
>    \partial 4
>    e4 |
>    a2 a4 \tieDashed e4.~8 \tieSolid 4 |
>    f2. c2 4 |
>    d2 \autoBeamOff \tieDashed e8~8 \tieSolid f2 d4
> }
> 
> <<
>   \new Staff <<
>     \new Voice = "displayed" {\displayedRhythm}
>     \new NullVoice = "stanzaOne" {\stanzaOneRhythm}
>     \new NullVoice = "stanzaThree" {\stanzaThreeRhythm}
>   >>
>   \new Lyrics {
>     \lyricsto "stanzaOne" \stanzaOneLyrics
>   }
>   \new Lyrics {
>     \lyricsto "stanzaThree" \stanzaThreeLyrics
>   }
> >>
> 
> HTH,
> 
> %%%%%%%
> 
> Yes, indeed it helps.
> 
> The idea with the NullVoice and independent rhythms is great. All in
> all, there are 6 stanzas with 5 rhythm variants because of the diffent
> numbers of syllables. Defining one displayed voice with the (potential)
> shorter notes and individual rhythms for the stanzas gives me a very
> good replication of the original score.
> 
> That's also the reason I don't want to use the dashed tie. Probably it
> is a more readable form for rhythm variations in songs. But since I'm
> unexperience with songs, I try to keep near the original.
> 
> Thanks,
> Helge
> 
> Carl
> 
> 




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