Re: German notation

[Mark Knoop]

I think Wim may be referring to the various standards of transposing the
B-flat bass clarinet.

- either in bass clef a major 2nd higher than sounding (as in this
  Strauss excerpt)

- or in treble clef a major 9th higher than sounding (which is what he
  wants)

But Wim, we need some of your LilyPond code to see what you're starting
with in order to help with any necessary changes.

Mark

At 10:54 on 29 Jan 2023, Thomas Scharkowski wrote:
> Hi Wim,

> I looked at the score of the Menuet - I do not find anything
> extraordinary there. The Bass clarinet in B flat (Si b) is transposed
> as usual. I still do not understand what you mean by „German“ and
> „French notation“.

> Thomas

> BTW: The French Horn parts (4 Corni) are also transposed, these are in
> F (french: Fa).


>> Am 29.01.2023 um 10:29 schrieb Wim van Dommelen <mail@wimvd.nl>:
>>
>> Hi Thomas,
>>
>> "Short" is a dificult concept....
>>
>> I think the best is to point you to a live example, check entry
>> PMLP255074 on the (magnificant) IMSLP collection (do not hit print,
>> this is bad for your carbon footprint as the full score is 170 pages
>> <;0). I myself looked at part III "Menuette" (still 29 pages :-).
>> Within the score look for the Bass clarinet line and compare this
>> score with the other instruments, both concerning the pitch to play
>> it as checking the key in which it is done. A befriended professional
>> player confirmed me this is "German notation". I'm looking for help
>> in converting this to the regular way of working.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Wim.
>>
>>
>>> On 29 Jan 2023, at 10:00 , Thomas Scharkowski <t.scharkowski@t-online.de> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Wim,
>>>
>>> could you provide short example?
>>>
>>> Thomas
>>>
>>> PS: I do not unterstand this sentence: << I want to play it properly
>>> notation (which is „French“ >>
>>>>
>>>> Am 29.01.2023 um 09:43 schrieb Wim van Dommelen <mail@wimvd.nl>:
>>>>
>>>> I encountered a piece written in so-called "German notation" and I
>>>> want to play it properly notation (which is "French"
>>>>
>>>> I can do the basic transposes but the key is always interfering and
>>>> produces strange results.
>>>>
>>>> Is there a quick Lilypond recipe to convert this (from "German" to
>>>> "French" written) ?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Wim van Dommelen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>


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Mark Knoop