Re: German notation

[Mats Bengtsson]

On 2023-01-30 10:43, Lukas-Fabian Moser wrote:

> > By the way, there
> >         also
> >         
> >         exists the opposite: In (older?) scores of symphonies by Anton
> >         
> >         Bruckner, the violoncello part, if using the violin clef, is
> >         notated
> >         
> >         one octave higher than sounding.
> >         
> >       
>       
>       This is also common in Dvorak, for example. Strauss-Berlioz
>       describe a precise rule for this (according to them, violin clef
>       for cello is written one octave higher if it occurs i) right at
>       the start of a piece or ii) after music in bass clef; it's written
>       _loco_ if it comes after a
>       passage in tenor clef). But then they (i.e. probably Berlioz)
>       continue:
>       
>       
>       "Dieser durch nichts zu rechtfertigende Gebrauch führt um so
>       häufiger zu Mißverständnissen, als manche Violoncellisten keine
>       Notiz davon nehmen und den G-Schlüssel stets nur in seiner
>       wirklichen Bedeutung nehmen."
>       
>       
>       (Roughly: There's no justification for this usage which often
>       leads to confusion, in particular since some cellists are unaware
>       of it and always read the treble clef in its standard meaning.)
>       
>

My cello friends use to call it "trouble clef"!

    /Mats