Re: [m17n-list] Cedilla

[Florêncio Neves]

Since Gnome integrated IBus, gtk's cedilla immodule doesn't work for
me anymore.  But in fact it might be better to report the issue to
Gnome and let them decide whether a solution through IBus/m17n is the
most desirable one.

By the way, let me comment on the latn-pre input method.  It is great
in that it enables you to type in the vast majority of European
languages.  However, it has so many dead keys that some people might
consider it unusable.  For instance, typing
  http://example.com/home
yields
  http:°exampleċomħome

There is a couple of ways in which this might be improved.  One
possibility would be to provide a way for the user to choose which
keys are dead keys; then, everybody who doesn't need the period and
slash to be dead keys (and that applies to most Western European
languages) could disable it, making the IM less intrusive.

A second possibility would be to provide a new input method which is
similar to the existing latn-pre but where only the keys ' " ` ~ ^ are
dead keys.  This would be sufficient to type most Western European
languages and wouldn't suffer from excessive dead keys.

A third possibility would be to have a minimal input method for each
Latin language, as in Emacs.

Let me know if you find any of these worth including in m17n.  I could
then help implementing it.

On 12/29/13, Kenichi Handa <address@hidden> wrote:
> In article
> <address@hidden>,
> Flor�+4ncio Neves <address@hidden> writes:
>
>> In the US International keyboard layout, <dead_acute> c produces �++,
>> and the cedilla character (�+.) can only be accessed with the
>> uncomfortable combination AltGr-<comma>.  In many other keyboard
>> layouts for Latin languages there doesn't seem to be any way to
>> produce a cedilla.
>
>> For the convenience of users typing in Portuguese and
>> French (and perhaps some Mideastern languages), Gnome used to have a
>> cedilla input method which allowed the cedilla to be entered using the
>> combination <dead_acute> c.  Since Gnome started using iBus this is no
>> longer available.
>
> I vaguely remember that gtk has environment variable
> GTK_IM_MODULE.  Doesn't it work to set that variable to
> "cedilla" (you may need re-login)?
>
>> The attached file would bring back this functionality, and I would
>> like to contribute it to m17n.  I don't need or want to retain the
>> copyright for this file, but I can put the copyright notice in my name
>> if you prefer.
>
> Thank you for the contribution, but I'm not sure how
> universally such an input method is useful.  Isn't the
> current situation just a mis-configuration of Gnome package,
> and will be solved by a new version?
>
>> (map
>>  (trans
>>   ("�++" ?�+.)
>>   ("�*+" ?�*.)
>>  ))
>
> Don't you need to type "�++"?
>
> ---
> Kenichi Handa
> address@hidden
>