[Savannah-hackers] Re: PHP4 license

[Mathieu Roy]

Ok, it seems serious to me. Can licensing people give us their point
of view?

About jgraph link, if we can consider it as a dependancy, this is a
violation of the Savannah policy and the account should be
deactivated.

Anyway, there is already a Savannah policy violation, I'll send a mail
right now, as copyright information lacks in many files.





James Michael DuPont <address@hidden> said:

> --- Mathieu Roy <address@hidden> wrote:
> > Hugo Gayosso <address@hidden> said:
> > 
> > > James Michael DuPont <address@hidden> writes:
> > > 
> > > > Ok, Thank you for your advice. I have followed this and am in
> > > > contact already with the FSF about this isssue.
> > > > 
> > > > I was asking a general question, but the relevance is really to
> > the
> > > > Savannah project.
> > > > 
> > > > There are some (let them remain unnamed) people trying to paint
> > the
> > > > GPLEd Sourceforge code with an LGPL coat of paint, so the that
> > they
> > > > may link in non-free software into the distribution, or even sell
> > > > non-free additions to the code.
> > > > 
> > > > My question is really directed towards that activitity and in
> > > > specific,
> > > > 
> > > > can a user make a non-free php plug in and distributed specific
> > > > querys about the sf database structure, and still remain
> > separate?
> > > 
> > > Does any of the savannah-hackers team members know the answer for
> > > this?
> > 
> > If I correctly understand, my answer would be positive. SF update a
> > database. Another software can gather this data using SQL commands
> > and
> > directly reedit those data.
> > Basically, it's just like if you were creating a file with Gnumeric
> > and then edit it with a proprietary software like MS Excel.
> > 
> > But if the second software is technically-speaking a "plug in", which
> > mean it relies on SF functions, it's a license violation. What means
> > painting the GPL code by LGPL coat of paint; creating functions like
> > NEW_LGPL_this_function(SF_GPL_this_function($args)); ? I do not think
> > it's legal. If so, it would be a GPL hole.
> 
> Basically, this person has done both.
> 1. Extracted the data from the sourceforge database into their own
> database.
> 2. Modified the sourceforge code to attempt to allow non-free code to
> link int.
> 3. Tried to include non-free code (jpgraph) into the GPLed application,
> or at least links to it.
> 
> Here is the cvs web path of two important changes :
> http://savannah.nongnu.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs/gforge/gforge/lgpl/lgplpre.php
> http://savannah.nongnu.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs/gforge/gforge/etc/config.php
> 
> Following are the details of the  modifications : 
> 
> http://savannah.nongnu.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs/gforge/gforge/etc/config.php
> 
> Revision 1.1 Sat Feb 8 19:44:39 2003 UTC (38 hours, 57 minutes ago) by
> bigdisk 
> adding basic lgpl infrastructure
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> <?php
> /*
>       To use LGPL-infrastructure, copy variables
>       from your /etc/gforge/local.inc file
> */
> [SNIP]
> /*
>       JPGRAPH Package
> */
> $sys_path_to_jpgraph='/path/to/jpgraph/';
> [SNIP]
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Here he contains the links to non-free software jpgraph in the GPLEd
> savannah. Also he has the instructions for making "LGPLED code"
> 
> here is the other change :
> http://savannah.nongnu.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs/gforge/gforge/lgpl/lgplpre.php?rev=1.1&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup
> File: [Sources] / gforge / gforge / lgpl / lgplpre.php (download) 
> Revision: 1.1, Sat Feb 8 19:44:39 2003 UTC (39 hours, 1 minute ago) by
> bigdisk 
> adding basic lgpl infrastructure
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> <?php
> /**
>  *  lgplpre.php - allows non-free software to be linked safely to
> GForge
>  *
>  *  THIS FILE IS RELEASED UNDER THE LGPL
>  *
>  *  ANY MODIFICATIONS MUST BE ALSO RELEASED UNDER LGPL
>  *
>  */
> require_once('/etc/gforge/config.php');
> require_once('lgpl/database-pgsql.php');
> require_once('lgpl/user.php');
> require_once('lgpl/misc.php');
> require_once('lgpl/CoreObject.class');
> db_connect();
> ?>
> 
> =====
> James Michael DuPont
> http://introspector.sourceforge.net/
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