[Savannah-hackers] Re: Development proposition: Merging GForge and Savane

[Sylvain Beucler]

(Please use this cleaned-up list for now on, where I removed people not  
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I also have the feeling a merge could be done.

The GForge team could make an effort by eventually releasing the  
reporting module (which seems to be in progress anyway) and stop using  
the ransom model (that is discutable when applied to web services or  
provided in parallel via the 'Pro' services). A way to show good will  
would be to assign copyright to the FSF or make GForge a GNU project.
Meanwhile, the Savane team could make an effort, forget all the old  
quarrels and join the GForge team.
Then a resulting product could take the best of the two approaches.

As for using colloquial words, it only makes people discard the rant (I  
do not say it for this message only).

The main valid reason why this is welcome is that it will lead to a  
better product, and it is worth the effort. Work duplication is only  
good for proprietary software, like our common competitor SourceForge.

--
Sylvain


On 2004.04.17 10:07, Mathieu Roy wrote:
> Hugo Gayosso <address@hidden> tapota :
>
> > First of all thank you very much for your efforts Lorenzo.
> >
> > "Lorenzo Hernandez Garcia-Hierro" <address@hidden>  
> writes:
> >
> >> I want to propose a "merge" of the projects , a new project with
> >> the best things of each , a combination of the best of Savane and
> >> GForge.  I know this is really difficult , but , the only needed  
> >> thing is consensus between developers.
> >
> >
> > I think this would be great, I hope that both development teams
> > take your proposal seriously so there are more developers for a
> > single project instead of having duplicate efforts.
>
> You may propose the GNOME and KDE to merge as well.
>
> In fact, I'm not in favor of a merge of GForge and Savane:
>    - The approach in matter of code design is not the same
>    - The approach in matter of user interface is not the same
>    - The approach in matter of licensing is not the same.
>
> So, why a merge would be welcome?
>     - Because a _wanker_ said nobody was still maintaining Savane
>     just because some people do not say Amen to their latest fucking
>     decisions, so he took the right to lie to save his face?
>
> That's it? There are some persons around that really do not deserve
> any help (and I'm not talking about Gforge people or savannah  
> hackers) for the fucking inexistant support they provided over years  
> but the fucking nuisance they created instead. No thanks to them, if  
> Savannah, the service, is a piece of shit today, it's their work. If  
> it was something better in the past, it's not. I'll think twice if  
> ever I get involved in such project.
>
> So what? Savane will die because nobody will be interested in
> maintaining it? Why not, if it was meant to be. I have no shame to
> have spent lot of time to that project when it was of use to the free
> software developers. Now, it is probably time for disinvolvement, as
> the time for politeness is over -- this shit clearly lead to nowhere,
> and I need nobody to go down that road.
>
>
> --
> Mathieu Roy