Re: Shared application menu

[Banlu Kemiyatorn]

Dirk Olmes wrote:

> Argh! Make my eyes stop bleeding :-)
> I don't like the concept of using the top of the screen for a toolbar. 
> IMHO the toolbar should belong to the window / app that's using it but 
> I guess that's the same holy war as with menus. I would absolutely 
> hate to lose the top x pixels of the screen for a toolbar that would 
> even be *blank* (i.e. gray space) in a lot of cases.

You are right, I was thinking of that before I post that too. But after 
looking at my current desktop
I found that most of my applications has tool bar. And to advocate 'tool 
base environment' idea,
I think that every window should try to implement some tools.  The tool 
bar may not be that waste,
for instant, you can simply hide it if there is no tool available. (Yes 
I said that and realized sliding bar
sucks in many case) Or you can atleast has a small GNUstep logo placed 
where the Apple has on
OS X so the empty area isn't too lonely. Or even have a default tool bar 
per application that icon grayed
out when the current window doesn't recognize the message (kinda like 
menu entry, thus this could be
confusing but I just can't consider it is until I did a real experiment 
with it.)

The most interesting part of tool bar to me is that user can rearrange 
items to suite their best preferences,
so it supposed to be accessed more often than any kind of menu (vertical 
and horisontal) while taking
full advantage from edge's screen according to fitt's laws.

From above, I also think of replacing right-click menu with a pie menu 
representing tools instead
of the actual app menu. But this directly hurt pure OpenStep people 
(those I want to reserve their
feeling for the most) and should be treated as another issue ;-)

> I can't imagine how this toolbar thing would require a shared 
> application menu/app.

Right. That's another issue though.

> -dirk