Re: Comments on the website from people on twitter...

[Sebastian Reitenbach]

On Friday, August 9, 2013 04:00 CEST, Austin Clow <dr_clow@mac.com> wrote:

> What would be great if is I could get GNUstep to just install on FreeBSD 
> following the instructions that are posted on the website.
>
> Here: http://www.gnustep.org/resources/sources.html
> FreeBSD
> cd /usr/ports/devel/gnustep
> make install clean
>
> Has never worked for me, it also suggested to me the first time that I tried 
> installing it was that was all I needed to do. But then I learned about all 
> the dependencies that may or may not be installed by using that command, and 
> then I realized that I may never get it to work. Or something like that. So I 
> stopped. I am sure that there are more on that list that have since no longer 
> been able to work with the instructions because of how new distributions of 
> the OS are configured.
>
> 20 websites later with various instructions and I still can't get it to work. 
> I am far from a terminal wizard, but there always seems to be a "OH what you 
> need to do is edit the configuration file for q3241q234rqwe on that version 
> of FreeBSD" w.e.

I think David is working on updating the gnustep ports of FreeBSD, using clang, 
libobjc2 etc. but I don't know about the current state of affairs there. If you 
don't mind running OpenBSD, then:

cd /usr/ports/x11/gnustep
make install

OR
sudo pkg_add -i gnustep-desktop

will do the trick for you there ;) But its still with libobjc2-1.6.1 and 
compiled with GCC. For OpenBSD 5.5 I plan on working on switching
compiling with clang to get all the features possible ;)

cheers,
Sebastian



>
> I am attracted to the dream of GNUstep, but my dream is clearly not exactly 
> what everyone else is dreaming. I think GNUstep needs some goals and 
> leadership. I know what I would nix first: TRYING TO SUPPORT EVERYTHING and 
> not having the BEST options being default. I mean getting Objective-C 2.0 and 
> Cairo seems like climbing a mountain sometimes. At least it used to… I 
> haven't tried in a while.
>
> Binary distributions: A while back, I could not figure out why Ubuntu still 
> had old versions of GNUstep. I had thought somebody upgraded them recently, 
> but when I checked it was not so (at least it appeared not so in 
> PackageManager). So I moved on crying.
>
> Good instructions for those who know nothing about Unix/Linux world would 
> improve a lot.
>
> On Aug 8, 2013, at 6:50 PM, James Carthew <jcarthew@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I think the biggest problem with gnustep is there's a lot of little 
> > programs like talksoup, mpdcon and gsmplayer that are basically abandoned 
> > or won't compile properly. It would be nice if these could be gathered up 
> > and tested with gnustep to ensure they compile. I've been trying to follow 
> > the instructions to compile these applications on a Debian SID system and 
> > they just won't compile. This is when I've been checking out the code 
> > directly from Savanah or the release tarballs from gnustep.org's website. 
> > I'd like to get these little applications compilling, apply the theme 
> > engine, and the mac menus, and make some screenshots of a GNUStep desktop 
> > in action with as many mods to make it removed from the classic look as 
> > possible. This might help to generate some interest.
> >
> >
> > On 9 August 2013 09:32, Gregory Casamento <greg.casamento@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Ooops... I thought you were referring to the article on ars.   The other 
> > one does say what you mentioned. :(
> >
> > Greg
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 7:28 PM, Gregory Casamento 
> > <greg.casamento@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I just read the article in English.  I believe he removed the claim that 
> > GNUstep is not maintained because I don't see it in that version of the 
> > article.  Still, we must get our website redesigned and updated so it gives 
> > a better impression.
> >
> >
> > On Thursday, August 8, 2013, Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf wrote:
> > "GNUstep is abandoned" seems to be a common misconception. I read this 
> > today here: 
> > http://www.golem.de/news/darling-mac-os-x-anwendungen-unter-linux-1308-100858.html
> >
> > The author of that piece (which is mostly a translation of 
> > http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/08/os-x-apps-run-on-linux-with-wine-like-emulator-for-mac-software/
> >  ) added only this bit of "information": "Allerdings wird GNUStep kaum noch 
> > aktiv gepflegt." which translates to: "however, nowadays GNUstep is barely 
> > maintained". I wrote a mail to the author but didn't get a response up to 
> > now.
> >
> > We definitely need to do something about our public reception.
> >
> >
> > cheers,
> >
> >         Lars
> >
> > Am 08.08.2013 um 22:58 schrieb Gregory Casamento:
> >
> > > The comment is typical of those I see on a daily basis on twitter...
> > >
> > > He began by saying the site makes the project look abandoned.  I asked 
> > > what he thought could be improved... his responses are below.
> > > ---
> > > Keith Smiley @bheron I’d love to help with this if there’s something that 
> > > needs it.
> > >
> > > @bheron I also think a nice getting started would help. Jumping into wiki 
> > > pages can be a bit daunting. Just a 0 to hello world.
> > >
> > > @bheron I’m glad you’re still working hard. I think the website needs an 
> > > update. It just looks a little dated the screens as well
> > > ---
> > > One of our biggest issues is that people just don't know what we're all 
> > > about or that we're still around.
> > >
> > > We have the best framework out there, but if we don't get the word out 
> > > people just won't use it.
> > > --
> > > Gregory Casamento
> > > Open Logic Corporation, Principal Consultant
> > > yahoo/skype: greg_casamento, aol: gjcasa
> > > (240)274-9630 (Cell)
> > > http://www.gnustep.org
> > > http://heronsperch.blogspot.com
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> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Gregory Casamento
> > Open Logic Corporation, Principal Consultant
> > yahoo/skype: greg_casamento, aol: gjcasa
> > (240)274-9630 (Cell)
> > http://www.gnustep.org
> > http://heronsperch.blogspot.com
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Gregory Casamento
> > Open Logic Corporation, Principal Consultant
> > yahoo/skype: greg_casamento, aol: gjcasa
> > (240)274-9630 (Cell)
> > http://www.gnustep.org
> > http://heronsperch.blogspot.com
> >
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