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Richard Frith-Macdonald |
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Re: Opinion polls UIKit and Website... |
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Fri, 20 Dec 2013 13:18:19 +0000 |
On 20 Dec 2013, at 12:47, Graham Lee <graham@iamleeg.com> wrote:
> On 20 Dec 2013, at 12:34, David Chisnall <theraven@sucs.org> wrote:
>
>> it definitely refutes the assertion that patches are not accepted
>
> Sure. It’s the presentation that’s at fault. There’s an internal feeling that
> GNUstep is doing stuff and welcomes external contribution, and an external
> presentation of a stale bug database that isn’t linked to the source code
Looking at your patches, I see your point.
They are almost all gsweb and gdl2.
I (and I suspect the other core developers) think of GNUstep as, what I think
Greg has tried to get across repeatedly, the core libraries/software for OSX
compatibility.
There are other peripheral/ancilliary projects either hosted with gnustep on
other closely related sites for tons of extra stuff people need/use but which
aren't directly part of that.
So, when I think of the GNUstep project, I'm not thinking of all those other
bits like gsweb, but I can see how people can think of them as part of GNUstep
despite repeated official policy statements about what GNUstep *is*.
I guess we are a bit schizophrenic about it ... for instance there are several
projects I maintain, with copyright assigned to the FSF under the umbrella
GNUstep project category what I would never consider calling 'GNUstep' (the
WebServer library for instance), but if someone said 'does GNUstep have a web
server' I would point them to it.
I don't mean that the WebServer library is part of the GNUstep project, but
it's built on top of libobjc/base/make and is avilable for users of GNUstep, so
GNUstep 'has' a web server class in the sense that it's available and hosted
with gnustep.
If I fail to respond to queries about these add-ons, and fail to deal with
patches for those libraries, it should not reflect on GNUstep, but by
association I guess it could.
Similarly, problems with gsweb ought not to relfect upon the main GNUstep
project, but apparently they do.
I don't know anything much about the workings opf savannah etc, but I guess
what ought to be done here is make a clearer (wide) separation between all the
separate libraries with are maintained by individuals (or not maintained), and
GNUstep proper. Presumably bug/patch pages should direct people to separate
pages for things that aren't part of the main project?
> (and I wonder how many people find the source mirror on github and think
> there hasn’t been a commit in over three months, too).
I agree ... mirroring to github seems to have been a mistake. I'm pretty sure
Greg wrote warnings with it to say it was a reads-only mirror, but warnings are
not sufficient as people don't read/notice them.
- Re: Opinion polls UIKit and Website..., (continued)
- Re: Opinion polls UIKit and Website..., David Chisnall, 2013/12/20
- Re: Opinion polls UIKit and Website..., David Chisnall, 2013/12/20
- Re: Opinion polls UIKit and Website..., Graham Lee, 2013/12/20
- Re: Opinion polls UIKit and Website..., Ivan Vučica, 2013/12/20
- Re: Opinion polls UIKit and Website..., David Chisnall, 2013/12/20
- Re: Opinion polls UIKit and Website...,
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- Re: Opinion polls UIKit and Website..., Riccardo Mottola, 2013/12/20
- Re: Opinion polls UIKit and Website..., David Chisnall, 2013/12/20
- Re: Opinion polls UIKit and Website..., Gregory Casamento, 2013/12/20
- Re: Opinion polls UIKit and Website..., Gregory Casamento, 2013/12/20
- Re: Opinion polls UIKit and Website..., David Chisnall, 2013/12/20
- Re: Opinion polls UIKit and Website..., Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller, 2013/12/20
- Re: Opinion polls UIKit and Website..., Graham Lee, 2013/12/20
- Re: Opinion polls UIKit and Website..., Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller, 2013/12/20
- Re: Opinion polls UIKit and Website..., Riccardo Mottola, 2013/12/20
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- Re: Opinion polls UIKit and Website..., Doc O'Leary, 2013/12/20