Re: Kickstarter was not successful... but it did help things...

[Gregory Casamento]

Mr. O’Leary,

On Dec 22, 2013, at 12:36 PM, Doc O'Leary <droleary@7usenet2013.subsume.com> 
wrote:

> In article <mailman.9862.1387588676.10748.discuss-gnustep@gnu.org>,
> Germán Arias <germanandre@gmx.es> wrote:
> 
>>> Again with the stupid rush to implement things . . .
>> 
>> Remember that, in general, write free software is a hobby. Just to see
>> what happens.
> 
> That's no reason to abandon science.  I can "see what happens" without 
> all the wasted effort.  There is are good reasons why the crowd funding 
> failed.  There are good reasons why GNUstep hasn't boomed along with 
> Apple.  Good, *obvious* reasons that would have been evident to anyone 
> who was thinking critically about how the world works.

GNUstep hasn’t boomed with Apple for various reasons:

1) It has an outdated look
2) Most developers in Open Source don’t like Objective-C.  They consider it 
UGLY.
3) Many people assume GNUstep is an implementation of OpenStep only, mainly 
because of it’s look and feel and they don’t go beyond that point to try to 
discover more.
4) GNUstep hasn’t implemented iOS/CocoaTouch APIs.
5) in the free software world people were too concentrated on beating Apple and 
Microsoft to even think about implementing an API which was defined by 
NeXT/Apple.

With the collapse of GNOME due to GNOME3’s failures, the above may change and 
now, indeed, might be the time for GNUstep to rise… but we shall see.

>> "More valuable" is subjective.
> 
> Not always.  In the realm of science, in fact, very few things are 
> matters of opinion.  When the science is against your opinion, the smart 
> thing to do is change your opinion.  Too many people here seem unwilling 
> to do that.

See above.  I’m open to discussion.  Apparently you are not, since you’re very 
bad at listening.

>> No all people here are scientists. That isn't a requisite to write free
>> software. People have a lot of different reasons to write software.
>> And even being scientists, that doesn't means all will be agree with
>> same ideas.
> 
> Hell, they're outright dismissive of the *discussion* of said ideas.  
> That's just beyond the pale.

What’s really beyond pale is your apparent inability to listen or to put your 
money where your mouth is as evidenced by previous email exchanges.

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