Re: Package building

[Johannes Brakensiek]

Hey Ivan,

thank you for your work and your explanations!

On 20 Nov 2019, at 3:10, Ivan Vučica wrote:

> Now... developers may need updated versions when developing their 
> apps. I remember Debian not shipping with NSViewController or 
> NSWindowController when I first came around -- but on the other hand, 
> when I would cut a release, an updated .deb would follow. (Not to 
> mention our source code became much more discoverable, so seeing if a 
> class is missing is much easier too.)
>
> So when a developer needs a newer version so they can prepare a source 
> tarball for Debian to integrate... they can talk to us. We cut our 
> release, a Debian maintainer (e.g. Yavor) picks it up, the app gets 
> picked up too, everyone happy.
>
> Yes, I would say developers are very welcome to advocate with 
> maintainers for a release if not cutting one blocks their app's 
> release. :-)
>
> And at this time, I am still here to help component maintainers with a 
> release. I may not do it on a tight schedule, but eventually I’ll 
> find an evening or two to tackle this kind of request.
>
> Do you have a specific anecdote about something you wanted up to date, 
> as a binary, which wasn’t in your favorite distro?

The problem simply is that f.e. Debian ships libs that are build with 
GCC and thus are missing any of the new language features. I understand 
you are doing this for compatibility with other processor platforms. But 
this leads to the problem that any app developer who wants to build a 
new app based upon the clang ABI has to build and ship everything on his 
own. I really think this is a show blocker for attracting new developers 
(or even users). Or did I miss anything here?

Johannes