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Re: Info tutorial is out of date
From: |
Thien-Thi Nguyen |
Subject: |
Re: Info tutorial is out of date |
Date: |
16 Jul 2006 14:44:50 -0400 |
User-agent: |
Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.4 |
"Drew Adams" <address@hidden> writes:
> 4. The reaction to my post from 3 people who don't use a mouse was all
> about *them*, not about the target tutorial community. It was all
> about their own anti-mousing, and ~zero about the ideas in my post for
> improving the tutorial. IOW, their own anti-mouse button got pushed
> somehow, and any real debate on the ideas I raised was drowned.
i am not anti-mouse for myself bereft of empathy for the newbie
(although i realize that such feeling can never be accurately
transmitted via email).
IME, taking a mouse-is-irrelevant approach in a tutorial is like "tough
love"; i have successfully coached people on info (and emacs) usage w/
the preface "leave the mouse alone for now -- you might need it later
but probably less than you'd think". maybe i was just lucky.
> You missed the point - it's about *what Info is about*, and it's not
> about `n', `p', `u', and `d'. It's about finding information. The
> easiest and quickest way we can bring newbies to the real information
> is what we should aim for. Teaching `n' etc. up front is a wasteful
> distraction from the real goal.
everything is wasteful distraction. @xref{life}, @ref{entropy}.
thi
- Re: Info tutorial is out of date, (continued)
- Re: Info tutorial is out of date, Alan Mackenzie, 2006/07/17
- RE: Info tutorial is out of date, Drew Adams, 2006/07/17
- Re: Info tutorial is out of date, Slawomir Nowaczyk, 2006/07/20
- Re: Info tutorial is out of date, Richard Stallman, 2006/07/20
- Message not available
- Re: Info tutorial is out of date; mouse usage, David Kastrup, 2006/07/16
- RE: Info tutorial is out of date; mouse usage, Drew Adams, 2006/07/16
- Re: Info tutorial is out of date, Alan Mackenzie, 2006/07/16
- RE: Info tutorial is out of date, Drew Adams, 2006/07/16
- Re: Info tutorial is out of date,
Thien-Thi Nguyen <=
- Re: Info tutorial is out of date, Mathias Dahl, 2006/07/16
- Re: Info tutorial is out of date, Alan Mackenzie, 2006/07/16
- Re: Info tutorial is out of date, Mathias Dahl, 2006/07/16
- RE: Info tutorial is out of date, Drew Adams, 2006/07/16
- Re: Info tutorial is out of date, Alan Mackenzie, 2006/07/17
- Re: Info tutorial is out of date, Robert J. Chassell, 2006/07/17
- Re: Info tutorial is out of date, Alan Mackenzie, 2006/07/17
- Re: Info tutorial is out of date, Miles Bader, 2006/07/17
- RE: Info tutorial is out of date, Drew Adams, 2006/07/18
- Re: Info tutorial is out of date, Thien-Thi Nguyen, 2006/07/18