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Re: Friendlier dired experience [CODE INCLUDED]


From: Boruch Baum
Subject: Re: Friendlier dired experience [CODE INCLUDED]
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2020 04:42:14 -0500
User-agent: NeoMutt/20180716

On 2020-11-05 13:54, Arthur Miller wrote:
> Boruch Baum <boruch_baum@gmx.com> writes:
> > My memory from looking at it years ago was that it was non-functioning
> > abandon-ware.
> No idea if it is abandon-ware; I don't use it; I used some year ago and it
> was quite competent.
>
> Looking at github, it seems like last commit was ~6 month ago:
>
> https://github.com/sunrise-commander/sunrise-commander

Thanks!

> How do you do bookmarks? I just bookmarked a folder with your shortcut
> C-c b a; and the bookmark does not show in bookmarks list.

That's right. It's a separate diredc-only bookmark list.

> furthermore, when I use C-c b j; it seems to show some byte code, you
> can see it in the attached screenshot.

That *is* weird. I can't reproduce it. Any hints?

> opening new frame in the bacgkround is not really the best feel. It
> didn't got neither raised nor focused.

Fixed.

> Also my original frame got resized and centered on the screen, and
> diredc took place of the original frame (but in background and not focused).

Wait a second. This email sounds familiar. Did I already respond to this?

> The dual pane wasn't so resilient; at least not to Gnus (nothing is
> :-)). After switching to Gnus and back I was left with a single window.
> I am not sure if I understand the docs correctly: is it supposed to
> restore window layout and buffers automatically or do I need to take an
> action? It didn't happened automatically so I tried diredc-restore. I
> was than ask a question to choose between starting a new or choosing two
> panes or something else. I choose two-pane, but I wasn't left with same
> buffers after it executed.
>
> After I switched to the mail to continue writing it again switched to
> just one window. When I switched back it was still just one window. I
> then tried running again diredc (C-x 5 d); it just moved my cursor back
> to old frame. Running again diredc moved cursor back to second frame but
> it never switched back to dual pane nor to original buffers I had in
> diredc. I am sure I am using it wrong, but I don't see in the
> accompanying docs how to switch between buffers and go back to dual-pane
> and original buffers.
>
> In connection to this, looking at those predefined variables; I am not
> sure I find it really useful; you can see below what diredc exported
> when I run it for the first time:
>
> export d1="~/repos/emacs-related/emacs-diredc/" d2="" 
> f1="~/repos/emacs-related/emacs-diredc/README.md" f2="" 
> t1="(/home/arthur/repos/emacs-related/emacs-diredc/README.md)" t2="nil"
>
> sh-5.0$ sh-5.0$ sh-5.0$
>
> Documentation says they are useful dired values - but in which way are they
> useful? Do I really need to export a shortcut to a README file if I am
> already using Emacs? Am I supposed to open current file from the shell
> in new Eamcs instance, or what was the intended workflow?
>
> Sorry if I am obnoxious; these are just questions I was left with after
> tryimg it.
>
> Something positive:
>
> I like your C-c C-k and '; I'll steal it for my own hack of term-toggle,
> thanks! :-). I have eshell on F2 and term on F1, but ' was really nice;
> I think I'll use it instead of F2.
>
> >> History handling: can it not be handled by recentf/winner modes already?
> >
> > I've been a long-time happy user of winner, and found the answer to be
> > no. Winner operates on all windows of a frame, not just the current
> > dired buffer. Thus, if you had in your window configuration history
> > temporary quick-shell buffer-windows or quick-file-view buffer-windows,
> > they would pop in and out if you were using winner-undo to navigate
> > sequentially in your dired history. Also, does winner-mode have a
> > quick-jump to a specific history element?
> >
> >> I am not particulary against custom history handling, but recentf
> >> already does it and winner has undo/redo stack maybe they can be reused?
> >
> > When I had tried recentf years ago, I was disappointed that its only
> > interface was the ncurses menu. Is that still the case? In any event,
> > a recentf menu will include ALL recently visited items, so that list
> > will be a mixture of emacs files and dired buffers and who knows what
> > else; a user would need to visually filter out the path-names ending
> > with a file from those ending with a directory ...
> We have Helm + fuzzy search to filter those out ...
>
> >> Other functionality I would like to see is some from dired-hacks: toggle
> >> and filters.
> >
> > What do you mean by "toggles and filters"?
> https://github.com/Fuco1/dired-hacks#dired-subtree
> https://github.com/Fuco1/dired-hacks#dired-filter


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