Re: Adding use-package to core

[xenodasein]

Nov 13, 2022, 18:31 by eliz@gnu.org:

>> Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2022 19:12:03 +0100 (CET)
>> From: xenodasein@tutanota.de
>> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
>>
>> How integrated is it with custom, package, etc? Not well enough to be
>> considered complete IMO.
>>
>
> If something in it turns out to be incomplete, we will fix it.
>
>> My understanding is that you will make it yet another member of the
>> orphanage lisp/ when it could function perfectly from ELPA.
>>
>
> The packages in lisp/ aren't orphans, just look at the Git logs.  (How
> can you seriously consider the Lisp packages in core "frozen" when we
> average 5000 commits a year for the past ten years??  Where do all
> those commits go, in your opinion?)
>

There seems to be many like allout that don't receive a commit for
decades (apart from a typo fix or two). AFAICT most go to new additions.
Stefan K seems to do a lot of thankless housekeeping in that direction,
but more importantly there was the force of nature from Lars before you
ahem frustrated him away, so my criticism mostly applies to from then on;
by all means if we can get Lars back to fixing the million line
interdependent Elisp code, I'll grunt no more.  The way I see it options
are immediately to stop anything else and to hold communions and pray to
get him back, or just start downsizing.