Re: gnokii and Nokie N95 8GB

[Andraž 'ruskie' Levstik]

On 11:23:00 2008-05-03 Arnold Troeger <address@hidden> wrote:
> Pawel Kot wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Jari Turkia <address@hidden> wrote:
> >> Arnold Troeger wrote:
> >>
> >>> I've been doing some research on gnokii and the N95, and haven't
> >>> found
> >> anything much.  Can anyone tell me if they have gnokii working with
> >> the n95, or baring that, what the plans are for getting gnokii
> >> working with it?
> >>  Gnokii on S60 is supported by an application on the mobile end
> >>  (Gnapplet).
> >> It seems that the native protocol on a S60 device is not very usable
> >> for anything else except transferring your own handler to the mobile.
> > 
> > To be more specific. gnokii main area of interest are FBUS protocol
> > and AT protocol. Symbian phones have completly no FBUS support (which
> > is included only in Nokia phones Series40 and earlier). For unknown
> > reason Symbian phones have also very limited AT command subset
> > implemented. Therefore using AT commands you can send SMS, but you
> > can't read SMS, you can's read/write phonebook or calendar, etc. On
> > the other hand Symbian supports SyncML and Obex which are not
> > supported by gnokii.
> > 
> > We have (namely Bozo did) created gnapplet to be able to get from the
> > phone what we want. gnapplet consists of Symbian application (you need
> > to install it on the phone and run it every time you want connection)
> > and gnokii driver which talk using our internal protocol.
> > 
> > However this is not the case for Symbian60 3rd Edition which N95
> > happens to be. Symbian API completly changed for the 3rd edition and
> > nobody ported gnapplet (yet). There have been several attempts but all
> > of them failed (as of now).
> > 
> > What you can get from N95:
> >  - very limited functionality with gnokii using AT driver
> >  - access to filesystem using OpenObex tools
> >  - phonebook, calendar, todo, etc synchronization using Opensync (or
> > any other SyncML compatible software)
> > 
> > Unfortunately there's no single application to manage such phone.
> > 
> >>  Nobody else then me has indicated any interest in developing such
> >> application based on the S60 2nd ed version.
> > 
> > You mean 3rd Edition.
> > 
> >>  The problem is that current Gnapplet version (for S60 2nd ed.) has
> >>  been
> >> developed with Linux tools and I have zero experience with them. All
> >> professional Symbian development is based on Windows-tools (which
> >> are freely available on the net). So, unfortunately there are no
> >> results yet.
> > 
> > That's right. Daniele recently started to work on this but he faced
> > the problem of the self-signing site being down -- 3rd Ed. requires
> > applications to be digitally signed in order to run.
> > 
> > take care,
> > pkot
> 
> Thank you for your reply.  So, someone is working on gnapplet for the 
> n95?  Is the self-signing site being down the only problem with the 
> porting effort?
> 
> Thank you and best regards,
> Arnold
> 

Signing is easily avoided(or reduced to a meaningless thing)... Infact I'd
recommend debranding and jailbreaking (thus breaking any and all Digital
Restrictions Managment facilities for applications) on any n95 device...

###!!!WARNING!!!###
This can be dangerous. I take no responsibilities for anything.
Just because it worked for me it doesn't mean it will for anyone
else.
###!!!WARNING!!!###

That said I found the entire process of debranding and jailbreaking
easy to do. The important bits:
 * PLUG THE PHONE INTO AC!!!
 * DO NOT DISCONNECT THE PHONE UNTIL THE UPDATER SAYS IT'S
   FINISHED AND YOU SEE IT BOOTUP SUCCESSFULLY

In case you wan tto debrand it and jailbreak it first debrand it.

Here's some tutorials:
Debranding:
http://clear-nokia.blogspot.com/2007/05/nokia-n95-debranding-guide.html

Jailbreaking:
http://www.finestfones.com/2008/03/symbian-92-has-been-hacked.html
http://www.finestfones.com/2008/04/how-to-install-any-applications-using.html




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