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Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: MD5 is broken


From: Tom Lord
Subject: Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: MD5 is broken
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 11:07:27 -0800 (PST)

You argue that while one function will certainly be broken,
it is unlikely that two functions will be broken at the same 
time.

But logically speaking, the combination of two hash functions
is a single hash function.  It is just as "a priori" likely
that the combination will be broken.

Really, all the bickering comes down to setting a price tag: how
much does it cost to crack the security features in core arch?

Already, just as things stand, the cost is very high relative to other
revision control systems.  Carefully deployed, arch is unlikely to be
the weak link in a chain (and has a lot to help making a strong
system).  (Casually (and typically, I suspect) deployed, arch
unfortunately invites a false sense of security -- but not in any way
that can be fixed by adding new hash functions.)

Once security features reach the level of "pretty good", further 
improvements are very difficult to make with confidence.

Anyway: while source code *does* deserve better protection than it
usually gets, there is also a sharp and not far off upper bound where
one wants to say "if i reach the point of having to defend this stuff
*that* tediously, then it isn't worth defending at all."   You
have to fix other stuff, outside of computing, to implement that one.

-t




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