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Re: FSF : lackeys of their corporate masters

From: Bernd Jendrissek
Subject: Re: FSF : lackeys of their corporate masters
Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 11:21:22 +0000 (UTC)
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Snuffelluffogus <> wrote:
>Rui Miguel Seabra <> wrote in message
>> On Thu, 2004-05-06 at 08:24 -0700, Snuffelluffogus wrote:
>> > > It is unethical for me to help a little old lady across a busy road
>> > > without demanding she pay for the service?
>> > 
>> > Helping little old ladies across the street is not a PROFESSION
>> > that requires YEARS of EXPENSIVE TRAINING, you idiot.
>> You don't specifically train to be a programmer or a system
>> administrator. You learn the basics, and experience improves.
>I have seen much code written by self-taught programmers.
>It most sucks.

Most code (no qualification necessary) sucks.

AFAICT free software (or anything exposed for long enough in the "open
source" sun) is generally WAY better than any "professional" code
written as part of proprietary products.

Just look at the Windows headers for a start; that should give you a
clue.  I have no doubt the actual code is worse.

>Writing computer code should be left to engineers.

Oh no, you don't want to do that.  The worst of the worst code I've ever
come across tends to have been written by engineers.  In contrast to CS
types, they likely never learned about software architecture,
maintainability (you only need to build a bridge once, normally),
portability or more "advanced" topics like reentrancy and object

>The only reason it isn't is that programs change too often in many
>cases to justify a proper engineering approach.

After seeing too many engineers wreak their havoc on code, I'd rather
take my chances with code written by self-taught artists, thank you.

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