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Re: Greek in email


From: Ralph Corderoy
Subject: Re: Greek in email
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2023 16:31:03 +0000

Hi Branden,

Thanks for passing on the original email.  It's as I suggested:

- the text/html in the multipart/alternative got axed by the mailing
  list, and
- the multipart/alternative was left with a sole text/plain which got
  promoted into the multipart/alternative's place.

The text/plain part is truncated mid-quote.  It doesn't even end in a
linefeed.  Let's blame Kmail.  :-)

    $ mhlist -nov -file greek-email
     msg part  type/subtype              size description
       0       multipart/mixed            55K
         1     multipart/alternative      37K
         1.1   text/html                  22K
         1.2   text/plain                5689
         2     application/pdf            13K
    $
    $ mhcat -file greek-email -part 1.2 | tail -3; echo
    >
    > What is happening is that letters with the acute accent (Greek: tonos)
    > are getting dropped.  preconv(1) produces them in precomposed form
    $
    $ mhcat -file greek-email -part 1.1 | tail -3
    <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;margin-left:0;margin-right:0;">&gt; 
Branden</p>
    <br /><br /></body>
    </html>
    $

> When I view my GMail inbox via IMAP with NeoMutt, I don't have two
> copies of the message, but one.

So you're seeing different results with Gmail web interface and Gmail's
IMAP through NeoMutt?  If so then I think one is showing you the
text/html part and the other the text/plain part.

Traditionally, an MUA should show the first alternative it can handle.
This will be the ‘best’ quality because they're ordered best to worst.
But many decent MUAs allow that to be overridden to say text/plain is
preferred to text/html.

> When I look at the headers in NeoMutt, it appears to be the
> directly-delivered copy (since I was CCed), not the one to the list.

Agreed.

    $ received <greek-email
    Fri 24 Mar 2023
    01:48:01 +00:00:00 from [82.71.22.80] (helo=pip.localnet)
                       by smarthost01c.sbp.mail.zen.net.uk
                       with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) 
(Exim 4.90_1) (envelope- from <deri@chuzzlewit.myzen.co.uk>)
                       id 1pfWXB-0002DR-7X
    01:48:15 +00:00:14 from smarthost01c.sbp.mail.zen.net.uk 
(smarthost01c.sbp.mail.zen.net.uk. [212.23.1.5])
                       by mx.google.com
                       with ESMTPS
                       id 
o7-20020adfcf07000000b002cfe44486dbsi15902598wrj.940.2023.03.23.18.48.15
                       for <g.branden.robinson@gmail.com> (version=TLS1_2 
cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256)
    01:48:16 +00:00:15 by 2002:a05:6358:9211:b0:110:644f:f37b
                       with SMTP
                       id d17csp208408rwb
    Delivered-To:      g.branden.robinson@gmail.com
    $

-- 
Cheers, Ralph.



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