Re: [bug?] \lyricsto with lyrics above notes

[Juergen Reuter]

Hi, Graham!

Currently, I do not know of any better way to set up a SATB score, but if 
I develop some, I will send you a notice.  For the moment, I would like to 
suggest the following changes:

* Remove any durations from \lyrics definitions whenever only \lyricsto is 
  applied (e.g., in section 3.3.1, replace "hi4" with "hi", "ha4" with 
  "ha", etc.).  Because, lily ignores these durations anyway, and 
  specifying durations where lily ignores them only confuses the reader 
  of the manual.

* Add a note that lilypond ignores any durations specified in 
  \lyrics mode, if the lyrics are used via the \lyricsto mechanism.  
  Section 5.11.4 might be a proper place for adding such a note.

* Maybe Mats' notes on the principles behind the "{ s4 }" trick could be 
  added to the manual (e.g. in section 5.11.4), at least as long as we do 
  not have a cleaner solution.

Probably I will have to add some templates of my own to section 3, in 
particular templates for ancient notation (or should these go into 
section 5.17 like the template in 5.17.10?) as well as templates for 
transcription of mensural music and Gregorian chant (the current template 
in section 3.5.2 has some flaws).  Hopefully, next week I will find some 
time to write these templates.

Greetings,
Jürgen

On Fri, 3 Sep 2004, Graham Percival wrote:

> On 3-Sep-04, at 5:58 AM, Juergen Reuter wrote:
> > Still, I fear that the "{ s1 }" trick of the
> > example in section 3.3.1 of the manual is likely to break sooner or 
> > later
> > in future versions of lily.  However, since this example is part of the
> > regular manual, it should become evident quickly to bug hunters in 
> > case it
> > will break. ;-)
> 
> On that note, for the SATB vocal template (3.3.1), I simply 
> cut-and-pasted
> the template from the old "templates" section.  I've never written for 
> vocal
> scores as complex as SATB (even though most people would call that
> fairly simple :)
> 
> For vocal stuff I'm entirely at your mercy.  If there's a different 
> (better?)
> way to set up SATB, by all means post the template to lilypond-devel,
> and as long as nobody complains about it, I'll replace the existing one
> with that.
> 
> Cheers,
> - Graham
>