Re: ugly @predefined sections in PDF

[Trevor Daniels]

Till Rettig wrote Wednesday, November 19, 2008 5:43 PM
Subject: Re: ugly @predefined sections in PDF


> Trevor Daniels schrieb:
> > Werner LEMBERG wrote Wednesday, November 19, 2008 2:48 PM
> > > > There are only a couple of instances where this looks particularly
> > > > bad.  Could we instead change just those instances so each of
> > > > predefined commands is on a separate line?  Is this possible?  It
> > > > would certainly be easier!
> > >
> > > It's not clear to me why this would be `easier'.  Assume that later on
> > > a new command is inserted or removed.  The editor would have to check
> > > the PDF output whether the result is fine.  In case I use @predefined
> > > ... @endpredefined, the result is *always* fine.
> > >
> > > In general, I prefer a generic solution to a specific one, given that
> > > in this particular case it's really easy to do -- inserting a couple
> > > of @endpredefined doesn't hurt IMHO,
> >
> > Ah, maybe I misunderstood.  I'd assumed the @endpredefined would
> > have to be inserted after every list of predefined commands.  If
> > it is required only after the problematic ones then I agree with
> > you.
> >
> > >    Werner
> > Trevor
> I think it is even ok to insert them everywhere -- we have also  @ignore 
> and @end ignore.

I'm not opposed to this in principle, but you'll have
to find someone else to go through all the .itely files
and insert them.  I don't even have enough time at the
moment to complete the really important stuff, like
getting the text correct, and everyone else who was
working on the docs seems to have given up.

Trevor

> BTW why not this kind of hetherogen solution? It would make it also 
> possible to change the appeareance of those sectioning titles: for the 
> moment they look too much like a real subsubsection, at least in the 
> pdf, so it is difficult to keep track in which section you are at the 
> moment. What if it would just be normal bolded text? The pdf has another 
> issue, though: after a sectioning command the tex engine is clever 
> enough not to set an indent. but the following sections are indended. 
> This looks really odd in some of the lists. For this a defined 
> environment would help: in pdf format, we could set it not to use 
> indent, and switch back to indentation once the environment is over.
>
> greetings
> till