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Re: Terminology question
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David Wright |
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Re: Terminology question |
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Mon, 21 Jun 2021 09:23:21 -0500 |
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On Sat 19 Jun 2021 at 18:05:15 (-0700), Mark Stephen Mrotek wrote:
>
> I'll accept the burden.
> His plays with dynamic dynamics.
Apart from the typo (it's not a sentence), I suppose it might
be interesting to know what you would mean by uttering it.
> From: David Wright [mailto:lilylis@lionunicorn.co.uk]
> Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 5:38 PM
>
> On Sat 19 Jun 2021 at 10:53:40 (-0700), Mark Stephen Mrotek wrote:
>
> > Yes, yet what if the level was dynamic, i.e., changing, then dynamic would
> > operate as an adjective - stating what kind?
>
> When I listen to the TV, the dynamic level varies between programmes and
> adverts. I think the burden is on you to construct a sentence that describes
> this, and which uses dynamic as an adjective. (Of course, any example will
> do.)
>
> > From: lilypond-user
> > [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr.com@gnu.org] On Behalf
> > Of David Zelinsky
> > Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 10:12 AM
> >
> > Just a pendantic remark that, in the phrase "dynamic level", the word
> > "dynamic" is still being used as a noun, though it is modifying another
> > noun. Technically it is a "noun adjunct". It would also make sense to
> > interperet it as the *adjective* "dynamic", but then "dynamic level"
> > would mean a level that is dynamic, i.e. changing. That makes sense, but
> > it's not what was meant in the present context.
> >
> > -David
> >
> > Robert Gaebler <Bob.Gaebler@outlook.com> writes:
> > >
> > > Thanks… happy to advise. I would call \ff a dynamic.
> > > “Dynamics” is an interesting word, described as “plural in form,
> > > singular or plural in construction” in Merriam-Webster. The plural
> > > construct usually refers to the entire range of variation of loud to
> > > soft within a piece. So you might say, “The dynamics in this etude
> > > are exquisite!” (Plural in construction.) But a conductor or music
> > > teacher might caution, “Now, watch the dynamics here!” (Singular in
> > > construction, admonishing caution in the _application_ of dynamic
> > > expression in this particularly difficult
> > > passage.)
> > > The \ff is a specific mark denoting a dynamic level to be applied at
> > > the point of usage. Note that “dynamic” is both an adjective and a
> > > noun. The mark in the score is referred to as a dynamic (noun). It
> > > denotes a dynamic (adjective) level to be expressed.
> > > I hope this helps.
> > >
> > > BoG
> > >
> > > From: Jacques Menu<mailto:imj-muzhic@bluewin.ch>
> > > Sent: Friday, June 18, 2021 1:00 AM
> > >
> > > BTW, another question came to me: in the LP notation manual, ‘dynamic’ is
> > > sometimes a noun as in ‘dynamics’ and sometimes an adjective as in
> > > ’dynamic mark’.
> > > So, is \ff a dynamic or a dynamics?
> > >
> > > JM
Cheers,
David.
- Re: Terminology question, (continued)
- Re: Terminology question, Robert Gaebler, 2021/06/17
- Re: Terminology question, Jacques Menu, 2021/06/18
- Re: Terminology question, Kevin Barry, 2021/06/18
- RE: Terminology question, Robert Gaebler, 2021/06/18
- Re: Terminology question, Jacques Menu, 2021/06/18
- Re: Terminology question, David Zelinsky, 2021/06/19
- RE: Terminology question, Mark Stephen Mrotek, 2021/06/19
- Re: Terminology question, David Wright, 2021/06/19
- RE: Terminology question, Mark Stephen Mrotek, 2021/06/19
- Re: Terminology question, Aaron Hill, 2021/06/19
- Re: Terminology question,
David Wright <=
- RE: Terminology question, Mark Stephen Mrotek, 2021/06/21
- Re: Terminology question, Carl Sorensen, 2021/06/21
- RE: Terminology question, Mark Stephen Mrotek, 2021/06/21
- Re: Terminology question, Carl Sorensen, 2021/06/21
Re: Terminology question, Robert Gaebler, 2021/06/19