RE: Terminology question

[Mark Stephen Mrotek]

David,

I'll accept the burden.
His plays with dynamic dynamics.

Mark

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From: David Wright [mailto:lilylis@lionunicorn.co.uk] 
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 5:38 PM
To: Mark Stephen Mrotek <carsonmark@ca.rr.com>
Cc: 'David Zelinsky' <dzpost@dedekind.net>; lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Terminology question

On Sat 19 Jun 2021 at 10:53:40 (-0700), Mark Stephen Mrotek wrote:

> Yes, yet what if the level was dynamic, i.e., changing, then dynamic would 
> operate as an adjective - stating what kind?

When I listen to the TV, the dynamic level varies between programmes and 
adverts. I think the burden is on you to construct a sentence that describes 
this, and which uses dynamic as an adjective. (Of course, any example will do.)

> From: lilypond-user 
> [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr.com@gnu.org] On Behalf 
> Of David Zelinsky
> Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 10:12 AM
> 
> Just a pendantic remark that, in the phrase "dynamic level", the word 
> "dynamic" is still being used as a noun, though it is modifying another noun. 
>  Technically it is a "noun adjunct".  It would also make sense to interperet 
> it as the *adjective* "dynamic", but then "dynamic level"
> would mean a level that is dynamic, i.e. changing.  That makes sense, but 
> it's not what was meant in the present context.
> 
> -David
> 
> Robert Gaebler <Bob.Gaebler@outlook.com> writes:
> >
> > Thanks… happy to advise.  I would call \ff a dynamic.
> > “Dynamics” is an interesting word, described as “plural in form, 
> > singular or plural in construction” in Merriam-Webster. The plural 
> > construct usually refers to the entire range of variation of loud to 
> > soft within a piece.  So you might say, “The dynamics in this etude 
> > are exquisite!”  (Plural in construction.) But a conductor or music 
> > teacher might caution, “Now, watch the dynamics here!” (Singular in 
> > construction, admonishing caution in the _application_ of dynamic 
> > expression in this particularly difficult
> > passage.)
> > The \ff is a specific mark denoting a dynamic level to be applied at 
> > the point of usage.  Note that “dynamic” is both an adjective and a 
> > noun.  The mark in the score is referred to as a dynamic (noun).  It 
> > denotes a dynamic (adjective) level to be expressed.
> > I hope this helps.
> >
> > BoG
> >
> > From: Jacques Menu<mailto:imj-muzhic@bluewin.ch>
> > Sent: Friday, June 18, 2021 1:00 AM
> >
> > BTW, another question came to me: in the LP notation manual, ‘dynamic’ is 
> > sometimes a noun as in ‘dynamics’ and sometimes an adjective as in ’dynamic 
> > mark’.
> > So, is \ff a dynamic or a dynamics?
> >
> > JM

Cheers,
David.