RE: Terminology question

[Mark Stephen Mrotek]

Aah, another fly in the ointment!

What do you mean by asking for my meaning?

“When I use a word,’ Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, ‘it means 
just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.’
’The question is,’ said Alice, ‘whether you can make words mean so many 
different things.’"
Through the Looking Glass - Lewis Carrol

M

-----Original Message-----
From: David Wright [mailto:lilylis@lionunicorn.co.uk] 
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 7:23 AM
To: Mark Stephen Mrotek <carsonmark@ca.rr.com>
Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Terminology question

On Sat 19 Jun 2021 at 18:05:15 (-0700), Mark Stephen Mrotek wrote:
> 
> I'll accept the burden.
> His plays with dynamic dynamics.

Apart from the typo (it's not a sentence), I suppose it might be interesting to 
know what you would mean by uttering it.

> From: David Wright [mailto:lilylis@lionunicorn.co.uk]
> Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 5:38 PM
> 
> On Sat 19 Jun 2021 at 10:53:40 (-0700), Mark Stephen Mrotek wrote:
> 
> > Yes, yet what if the level was dynamic, i.e., changing, then dynamic would 
> > operate as an adjective - stating what kind?
> 
> When I listen to the TV, the dynamic level varies between programmes 
> and adverts. I think the burden is on you to construct a sentence that 
> describes this, and which uses dynamic as an adjective. (Of course, 
> any example will do.)
> 
> > From: lilypond-user
> > [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr.com@gnu.org] On 
> > Behalf Of David Zelinsky
> > Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 10:12 AM
> > 
> > Just a pendantic remark that, in the phrase "dynamic level", the word 
> > "dynamic" is still being used as a noun, though it is modifying another 
> > noun.  Technically it is a "noun adjunct".  It would also make sense to 
> > interperet it as the *adjective* "dynamic", but then "dynamic level"
> > would mean a level that is dynamic, i.e. changing.  That makes sense, but 
> > it's not what was meant in the present context.
> > 
> > -David
> > 
> > Robert Gaebler <Bob.Gaebler@outlook.com> writes:
> > >
> > > Thanks… happy to advise.  I would call \ff a dynamic.
> > > “Dynamics” is an interesting word, described as “plural in form, 
> > > singular or plural in construction” in Merriam-Webster. The plural 
> > > construct usually refers to the entire range of variation of loud 
> > > to soft within a piece.  So you might say, “The dynamics in this 
> > > etude are exquisite!”  (Plural in construction.) But a conductor 
> > > or music teacher might caution, “Now, watch the dynamics here!” 
> > > (Singular in construction, admonishing caution in the 
> > > _application_ of dynamic expression in this particularly difficult
> > > passage.)
> > > The \ff is a specific mark denoting a dynamic level to be applied 
> > > at the point of usage.  Note that “dynamic” is both an adjective 
> > > and a noun.  The mark in the score is referred to as a dynamic 
> > > (noun).  It denotes a dynamic (adjective) level to be expressed.
> > > I hope this helps.
> > >
> > > BoG
> > >
> > > From: Jacques Menu<mailto:imj-muzhic@bluewin.ch>
> > > Sent: Friday, June 18, 2021 1:00 AM
> > >
> > > BTW, another question came to me: in the LP notation manual, ‘dynamic’ is 
> > > sometimes a noun as in ‘dynamics’ and sometimes an adjective as in 
> > > ’dynamic mark’.
> > > So, is \ff a dynamic or a dynamics?
> > >
> > > JM

Cheers,
David.