Re: Is Lilypond’s G-Clef too straight?

[lilypond]

Hi Martín,

Thank you for taking the time! Note that what I sent are by no means proposed 
alternatives, but just quick and dirty hacks for getting a sort of feeling 
about the difference. Lilypond’s G-Clef is not meant to be rotated, and will 
not look good this way.

Generally you find both a rotation of the clef and the top slouching a bit 
forward. Or a lot forward. I’ve seen edition where the G-Clef is rotated by 
probably 20-30 degrees or something.

Valentin

Am Dienstag, 17. August 2021, 22:36:30 CEST schrieb Martín Rincón Botero:
> Hi Valentin,
> 
> just sending my two cents, since I belong to one of those who feel that
> Lilypond has a quite characteristic G-clef (not ugly, but I wouldn't call
> it "normal" or "standard"). I just looked at your two proposals and browsed
> through random scores on IMSLP. Almost all of the IMSLP examples show a
> clef that slightly (sometimes not so slightly!) lean a bit forward with one
> striking example that does the exact opposite. I would agree with you that
> a small rotation forward looks a bit more standard and find especially the
> first rotated clef very nice. The "straightness" of Lilypond's clef becomes
> more apparent to me in the small clef for some reason. That perception goes
> away with the first rotated clef. The second rotated clef looks to me a bit
> too leaning forward. Could it be that the scores that use a more marked
> rotation use a clef with more "paunch" to compensate for the extra
> rotation? Martín.
> www.martinrinconbotero.com
> 
> On ago. 12 2021, at 2:59 pm, Valentin Petzel <valentin@petzel.at> wrote:
> > Hello Silvain,
> > 
> > That is kind of the point. In most editions the G-Clef is not balanced,
> > but
> > leans a bit forward. Lilypond’s G-Clef does so too, but very slightly, so
> > the I’m asking for aesthetic opinions on whether this might be a slight
> > bit too straight.
> > 
> > Valentin

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