Re: Recitative in Chant music

[Fr. Samuel Springuel]

My mostly automated solution for recited notes is attached.

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Fr. Samuel, OSB
(R. Padraic Springuel)
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> On Oct 28, 2022, at 6:06 AM, Vladimír Slávik <slavik.vladimir@seznam.cz> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Michael,
> Admittedly I'm not that good with lilypond and then I'm familiar mostly with 
> Roman catholic music as written here (cz), but perhaps that can help you a 
> bit with the direction.
> 
> What I have seen done in psalms and thus do in these situations is make the 
> recitative note a breve. So I make the whole thing a cadenza, then use 
> explicit lengths for all the lyrics, and have a breve there. See below for an 
> example.
> 
> The one thing that is not really a given, just a convention in the literature 
> I have seen, is that it's a breve. You could just use another quarter for the 
> "long part" and the lyrics and it's all the same to Lilypond.
> 
> Arguably typing in all the lengths for all the lyrics is a lot of work, but 
> personally I've found that preferable to littering the lyrics with directives 
> to alter lengths. I have also never (never, ever) succeeded in making the 
> lilypond "guessing" right for the lyrics lengths.
> 
> If you make the whole work a cadenza, you have to also mark the bar ends 
> manually.
> 
> To make the chord show "only at the beginning", you need to align the lyrics 
> left. You can do it once for each breve, but following my approach of "not 
> littering the data with programming", I just align everything.
> 
> Others will perhaps help correct if there's anything wrong with this 
> approach? For me, it worked well this far :-)
> 
> Best,
> Vladimir
> 
> 
> \version "2.18.2"
> 
> \layout {
>     \context {
>         \Lyrics
>         \consists "Bar_engraver"
>         \consists "Separating_line_group_engraver"
>         \hide BarLine
>         \override LyricText.self-alignment-X = #LEFT
>     }
> }
> 
> noTime = \override Staff.TimeSignature #'stencil = ##f
> 
> right_hand = \relative c' {
>     \key c \major
>     \clef treble
>     \language "deutsch"
>     \noTime
>     \autoBeamOff
>     \accidentalStyle forget
>     \cadenzaOn
> 
>    c4 d4 e\breve e4 f2 f4~ e2 \bar "|"
> 
>    %(...more music)
> 
>     \cadenzaOff
> }
> 
> words = \lyricmode {
>     \set stanza = "1. "
>     Some4 words4 "that have something real"\breve -- ly4 long2 he4 -- re.2
> 
>     %(... more lyrics)
> }
> 
> staff = \new PianoStaff <<
>     \new Staff \right_hand
>     \new Lyrics \words
>     %(...)
> >>
> 
> \score {
>     \staff
> }
> 
> Note that this is a simplified example, so might not compile as-is.
> 
> 
> 
> Dne 25.10.2022 v 23:45 thedoctor81877--- via LilyPond user discussion 
> napsal(a):
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I have another question pleae. I have typeset several Orthodox liturgical 
>> music chant settings. Before, I would type out every sylable of the music 
>> even where there is a "recitative" (several word on the same chord.
>> 
>> However, I have a score somone had sent me, that, for the recitative parts, 
>> prints only the chord at the beginning of the recitative, and the chord at 
>> the end. For the exmample I was sent, only the altoWords line.
>> 
>> But, I am not sure how to use this, and am working on mastering it; and 
>> could use some help please. Here is part of what I have:
>> 
>> sopMusic = \relative c'' {
>>   % Music follows here.
>>   \set Timing.measureLength = #(ly:make-moment 13/4)
>>   g'4 g a2(b) g4 g g a b c2 \bar""
>>   \set Timing.measureLength = #(ly:make-moment 2/4)
>>   b4 b \bar""
>>   \set Timing.measureLength = #(ly:make-moment 5/4)
>>   a2 g2 \bar""
>> }
>> 
>> altoMusic = \relative c'' {
>>   \set Timing.measureLength = #(ly:make-moment 13/4)
>>   d4 d fs2(g) g4 g g g g g2 \bar""
>>   \set Timing.measureLength = #(ly:make-moment 2/4)
>>   g4 g \bar""
>>   \set Timing.measureLength = #(ly:make-moment 4/4)
>>   fs2 d2 \bar""
>> }
>> 
>> altoWords = \lyricmode {
>>   When the stone __ had been sealed by the Jews,
>>   \once \override LyricText.self-alignment-X = #LEFT
>>   while_the_soldiers_were_guar -- ding_Thy_most -- pure
>>   \once \override LyricText.self-alignment-X = #CENTER
>>   Bo -- dy.
>>   \once \override LyricText.self-alignment-X = #LEFT
>> 
>> 
>> }
>> 
>> So. the recitative should have:
>> 
>> "While the soldiers .. most-pure"
>> 
>> and Bod--y for the last two half-notes. Also, I seem to have 2 extra g4 in 
>> the alto line for the recitative.
>> 
>> I am not sure how to change and adress this; I have been trying to change 
>> the underlines and such in the lyrics but to no avail.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Michael D
>> 
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