Re: [RP] ... --solved (with my workspace scripts) -Phuk!

[Peter Pentchev]

On Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 09:59:23PM -0800, TBlittlefoot wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 10:37:15AM +1100, Brian May wrote:
> > >>>>> "TBlittlefoot" == TBlittlefoot  <address@hidden> writes:
> > 
> >     TBlittlefoot> What a piece of shit operating system. Don't know OS
> >     TBlittlefoot> X or Cygwin or Fink at all, but you've given me
> >     TBlittlefoot> enough information to allow me to forego wasting any
> >     TBlittlefoot> time with them.
> > 
> > My experience with Mac OS X is it is similar to Microsoft Windows,
> > except it has had OpenGL support in the desktop longer (is this a good
> > thing?), the menu appears at the top of the screen not the top of the
> > window (I dislike this), and windows can only be resized at the bottom
> > right corner (to the best of my knowledge).
> > 
> > cygwin has an X server, that is full screen only (to the best of my
> > knowledge), so presumably you can run ratpoison within that if you
> > really want to.
> > 
> > There is also Xming <http://www.straightrunning.com/XmingNotes/> which
> > allows mixing X-Windows with MS-Windows.
> > 
> > Nothing beats Linux+Xorg+ratpoison IMHO, but at least options are
> > there if you have to use Microsoft Windows or Mac OS X.
> > 
> > To be fair, there is a advantage to the Microsoft Windows and Mac OS X
> > approach - a standard window manager on all computers that doesn't
> > confuse the hell out of the system administrator when asked to debug
> > an unrelated problem over the phone of a desktop computer run by a
> > user who doesn't know what they are doing.
> 
> Actually, Brian, I don't think those OSes have window managers. Certainly
> Windows doesn't. It's all one piece. No seperate X server, window manager,
> desktop environment. A bloated and convoluted nightmare. 

Of course they do have a window manager - that is, there is a part of
what the users perceive as "the one-piece GUI/OS" that specifically takes
care of mapping window-level requests from the application to bitmap-
and line-drawing level requests to the low-level graphics subsystem.
It's just that *from the user's point of view* it is not clearly
separated from the rest of the GUI.

G'luck,
Peter

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