Re: [Savannah-hackers] savannah.gnu.org: submission of qtcsharp

[mathieu]

Le ven 15 mar 2002 à 17h58, Jaime E. Villate a écrit :
> On Fri, Mar 15, 2002 at 01:54:50PM +0100, mathieu wrote:
> > >       What makes you think that FSF and RMS support Ximian ?
> >
> > Some past RMS declaration (about a month or two ago) about this.
> >
> > For example
> > http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=02/01/27/2232231
>
> Reading that article what I conclude is that RMS does not support
> Ximian
> (Ximian has "parted ways" with the Free software movement).
> The other part about the convenience of using LGPL rather than the GPL
> in some
> cases is not new and I don't think it has been said by RMS as a way of
> supporting Ximian.

In fact, I must admit that you're right.

But according to what I frequently read on forums, many people thinks 
that RMS and the FSF support Ximian.


> > Also, we cant take account of the fact that gnome.org recommand
> using
> > Ximian redcarpet to install GNOME
> > http://www.gnome.org/start/ (menu "get gnome" at www.gnome.org/ )
>
> It seems to me that you have the option of either using Red Carpet or
> downloading via ftp some packages that you can then install with your
> favorite
> installing tool (if you succeed in loging into the FTP server which I
> could
> not do today). But I agree that it is pitiful that one has to go to
> XIMIAN to
> get binary packages for GNOME.


It is possible to get GNOME without using Ximian services.

- This is not a problem that Ximian provide GNOME.
- This is not a problem that Ximian provide only Ximian GNOME (ie : not 
GNOME + gnome office + balsa, the first mailer, but Ximian GNOME with 
Ximian logo everywhere and with Evolution)
- This is not a problem that a link to Ximian exists on the page "get 
gnome" at gnome.org

The problem is that the only way to get recent GNOME binaries 
(differents dans distros ones) is to use Ximian service that only 
provide an half of GNOME, using RedCarpet that is not a collaborative 
work software but a company self promotion software (but is a free 
software, right), since no one can create a channel for this software.

This problem exist for historical reason : the main reason evoked of 
the creation of Ximian, called Helixcode, was enhancing the 
distribution of GNOME.

But address@hidden is probably not the best place to discuss 
this :)

cheers



--
mathieu

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