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[Texmacs-dev] Free Software needs Free Documentation


From: martin-kemp
Subject: [Texmacs-dev] Free Software needs Free Documentation
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2021 22:07:04 +0200 (CEST)


Hi Joris

>From: TeXmacs <texmacs@lix.polytechnique.fr>
>To: texmacs-dev@gnu.org
>Subject: Re: [Texmacs-dev] Free Software needs Free Documentation
>Date: 19/06/2021 21:07:06 Europe/Paris

>Hi Martin,

>On Sat, Jun 19, 2021 at 08:01:35PM +0200, martin-kemp@brusseler.com wrote:
>> On the contrary, it seems more to me that many can't stand the idea of being
>> challenged.

>I wonder whether you gave Donald Knuth and Leslie Lamport similar challenges,
>since they set the example with their books on TeX and LaTeX
>(I searched on the web, but I could not find trace of such challenges).

>I don't think that they wrote a lot of free documentation on their software
>by the way, contrary to what I did for TeXmacs.

>And of course, since you seem to like challenges,
>you are free to contribute to the documentation!

May I remind you that you wrote "Liberons la publication scientifique" in 2001.
What happened since then ?

> > > It is unfortunate to see a Directeur de Recherche of CNRS and the
> > > main developer of the Gnu TeXmacs Software System, writes a guide
> > > on mastering the secrets and latest versions of Gnu TeXmacs.
> > > Even worse, the book is written in english, yet the terms of sale
> > > are given in french.

>I am just complying to French law, since I happen to live in France.

But should the readers who read it, be entitled to the same in the language
the book was written in?

> > > And with the hefty price of 50 Euros, who is he supposed to be
> > > kidding.  Because many people are not laughing or pleased - to
> > > say the least.
>
> > Please do not speak for everyone. 50€ is not very much for this
> > amount of work, and Joris definitively deserve to have some
> > financial support. And again, this book is not at all needed to
>
> > use most of TeXmacs.
>
>> He should include that when applying for funds.

>What are you trying to say? Please remain polite and
>make a precise point if you want to challenge me.

I will be polite.  I advocate a new publishing model (today we do need
publishers - Plos One charges $1350 for Open Access and for
Nature Communications it is $5700).  Scientists should publish
free documentation of works, and could include a one-time
contribution in their research proposal to cover editing and
publishing costs.

Best regards, --Joris

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