Re: project goal Re: Release schedule

[Björn Gohla]

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On 2003-04-16 03:38, Jeff Teunissen wrote:
> Jason Clouse wrote:
> > On 2003-04-15 06:26:07 +0000 Willem Rein Oudshoorn <woudshoo@xs4all.nl>
> >
> > wrote:
> > > I agree with most points raised by Helge.  From my limited point
> > > of view superiority has nothing to do with becoming popular.
> > > Filling a need seems to be the crucial factor.
> >
> > That's exactly my point.  There is NO way GNUstep can fill a need on X11
> > because, with a few minor exceptions, all the major applications that
> > people need are already available there.  That's why Fresco (and the
> > easy portability between OS X and GNUstep) is a major opportunity.  With
> > Fresco, there IS a serious need for a desktop system and applications.
>
> Assumes facts not in evidence...primarily, that there is a need for Fresco
> in the first place, though that is by no means the only one. GGI is
> garbage, GII is worse, KGI is never going to become part of the kernel
> because Linus hates it, and even distributions that ship GNUstep stuff
> don't really do anything about Berlin/Fresco/whatever.

afaik fresco is not exclusively bound to any of those graphics libs, and of 
course distributions would not ship software that is not usable yet.

> Further, GNUstep wouldn't fit in at *all* with their system. They put the
> "widgets" into the display server, while GNUstep draws and handles its own
> UI elements.

so what, they have an interface alot more sophisticated.

> > I don't, however, recall anyone saying, "Why would I try Fresco?  X is
> > good enough."
>
> X is more than good enough, and from my perspective it's better on a
> technical level than Fresco is...but then, most other things are as well.
> But hey, that last part is merely an opinion.

well, x has been around for alot longer and been worked on and debugged. you 
will have to concede that the x interface is rather plain, and if you 
consider there being hundreds of widget sets, all mostly incompatible, the 
ultimate wisdom, then i can see that x is best for you ;).

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