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From: | Gregory Casamento |
Subject: | Re: Kickstarter was not successful... but it did help things... |
Date: | Sat, 21 Dec 2013 09:40:00 -0500 |
In article <mailman.9767.1387538910.10748.discuss-gnustep@gnu.org>,
David Chisnall <theraven@sucs.org> wrote:
> Leadership requires followers.
No, it doesn't. It simply requires a person to take a stand despite the
risk of being wrong. That's also at the heart of the scientific method.
I'm a scientist; are you not? If you want a cult of blind leaders and
even blinder followers, go start a religion.
> Gregory can put on his GNUstep Maintainer hat> and say 'we should implement UIKit', but it has no effect unless someone
> actually does the work. Implementing UIKit is more work than one person canAgain with the stupid rush to implement things . . .
> do by themselves.
Here's a radical idea: why not actually evaluate the goal first? Before
throwing people at the problem, figure out what good reason there was
(if any) for Apple to go UIKit for mobile development instead of just
expanding the AppKit API. Perhaps the right thing to do for GNUstep
doesn't involve *any* coders.
> Talk on a mailing list is cheap.And yet so much more valuable than aimless code.
Nonsense. Only a fool thinks that more monkeys sitting at typewriters
> If you're complaining that no one else is, then
> you're not contributing anything useful.
is the way to get better books. If you sincerely don't see the point of
debating the correctness of an approach, my opinion of FreeBSD is
greatly reduced.
More rubbish. Or, rather, incredibly sad if true. I mean, who exactly
> Open source projects are not created for users, they're created for
> contributors.
are you being "open" to if you're all being that selfishly insular? Is
this seriously the thinking behind FreeBSD?
> Contributors may be ones who donate code, artwork,If that's the direction GNUstep chooses to go, that is not a cult I want
> documentation, or money.
to be part of *ever*. I take too much joy in seeing regular people
benefit from my work.
Whereas I would start with having, you know, a smart agenda in the first
> If you want to set
> an agenda for ANY open source project, you need to contribute.
place. I continue to be amazed by the lack of scientific thinking being
expressed by people I would assume are trained computer scientists.
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