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From: | Gerold Rupprecht |
Subject: | Re: ANN: GNUstep Windows MSVC Toolchain Scripts |
Date: | Sat, 20 Mar 2021 01:53:46 +0100 |
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Hi,
GCC seems to be concentrating on OpenMP and a number of parallel
processing initiatives the last few releases. Objective-C needs a
little love in GCC.
GCC has completed its move over to git and that should facilitate more rapid changes in the future.
That Objective-C gets shipped broken in GCC is a disservice to all the Objective-C users. This is critical for GNUstep. I can only concur with Gregory.
Best regards,
Gerold
All,
I have to concur with Lars here. I have personally dealt with this. There have been instances where GCC was released without a working ObjC compiler effectively breaking GNUstep in the eyes of the rest of the world. Other compilers do not let this happen, but, for some reason, GCC did and still does not consider Objective-C regressions to be a blocker. Only C, and C++ issues. GCC needs to consider Objective-C to be important enough to its ecosystem to halt a release to fix a critical regression otherwise GNUstep is not being treated equally.
Yours, GC
On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 7:16 AM lars.sonchocky-helldorf@hamburg.de <lars.sonchocky-helldorf@hamburg.de> wrote:
Hi Mr. Stallman,
as long as GCC considers ObjC only as a second class citizen this might be problematic. Search for:
GCC "Objective-C is not release-critical.“
in the GCC-Mailing List Archives, if you don’t know what I mean. Bugs don’t get fixed, features (modern ObjC) don’t get implemented, parts of the GCC team are hostile towards ObjC.
regards,
Lars
> Am 19.03.2021 um 06:24 schrieb Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>:
>
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>> I am pleased to announce a new GNUstep project containing a set of
>> scripts to build GNUstep for Windows with Clang and libobjc2 using
>> the Visual Studio toolchain and MSVC ABI (i.e. without MinGW):
>
> Please keep recommending GCC as the compiler to choose.
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