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Re: Next release
From: |
Stefan Monnier |
Subject: |
Re: Next release |
Date: |
Sat, 03 May 2008 23:21:37 -0400 |
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Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) |
>> We're still waiting for someone to actually finish the merge w.r.t
>> the Carbon port. This can only be done by someone who understand
>> enough of the Carbon port. You seem like our best hope here.
> As I said in
> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2008-03/msg00419.html, I
> don't have a plan to develop the Carbon (not Carbon+AppKit) port of
> Emacs 23.
By "Carbon" I mean both Carbon and Carbon+AppKit, since I don't know the
actual difference between the two.
>> I do not know why you seem to be so offended by the multi-tty code.
>> Maybe if you explained it, we could work it through. Its being
>> non-working and without anybody willing to fix it is basically the
>> main reason why we started to look into the Emacs.app code. It is a
>> pity to throw away this code.
> The breakage of the Carbon port is definitely NOT a reason. Well, one
> of the reasons would be that I found some changes that are totally
> unrelated to multi-tty.
Yes, the merge had its share of problems, but the fact that Lorentey
wasn't around made it worse. But I don't know what unrelated change you
may be thinking about.
> Another reason is no clear explanation given
> about preloading term/*-win.
There was some explanation given via email at some point. IIRC, the
issue is that the multi-tty feature introduced the possibility that an
Emacs session that starts using X11 (resp tty) may later be asked to
open a tty (resp X11) terminal. But loading *-win.el after Emacs has
been running for a while apparently introduced problems, so the code was
changed to eagerly load all the term/*-win.el files that may be used
later on during the session. At that point, since x-win.el is loaded
regardless of whether we only use X11 or tty, it is a perfect candidate
for preloading.
Why is that a problem?
Stefan
- Re: Next release, (continued)
- Re: Next release, Dan Nicolaescu, 2008/05/02
- Re: Next release, Jason Rumney, 2008/05/02
- Re: Next release, YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu, 2008/05/02
- Re: Next release, Dan Nicolaescu, 2008/05/02
- Re: Next release, YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu, 2008/05/03
- Re: Next release, Stefan Monnier, 2008/05/03
- Re: Next release, Dan Nicolaescu, 2008/05/03
- Re: Next release, YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu, 2008/05/03
- Re: Next release, Stefan Monnier, 2008/05/03
- Re: Next release, YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu, 2008/05/03
- Re: Next release,
Stefan Monnier <=
- Re: Next release, YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu, 2008/05/04
- Re: Next release, Stefan Monnier, 2008/05/04
- Re: Next release, YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu, 2008/05/04
- Re: Next release, Stefan Monnier, 2008/05/05
- Re: Next release, Chong Yidong, 2008/05/04
- Re: Next release, YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu, 2008/05/04
- Re: Next release, Stefan Monnier, 2008/05/04
- Re: Next release, Juanma Barranquero, 2008/05/05
- Re: Next release, Stefan Monnier, 2008/05/07
- Re: Next release, Eli Zaretskii, 2008/05/07