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Re: with-pgtk: C-; turns into plain ';'
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T.V Raman |
Subject: |
Re: with-pgtk: C-; turns into plain ';' |
Date: |
Tue, 15 Feb 2022 19:16:58 -0800 |
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Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) |
Tim Cross <theophilusx@gmail.com> writes:
More importantly, that this difference only showed up recently makes me
still want to call it a bug --- not a "Xis old and broken go away if it
doesn't work" view-point.
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>
>>> From: Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>
>>> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, raman@google.com
>>> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2022 21:45:45 +0800
>>>
>>> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>>>
>>> > Should this be in NEWS (and perhaps also in PROBLEMS)?
>>>
>>> The NEWS entry seems fine (it already mentions that it's for Wayland and
>>> Broadway)
>>
>> IMNSHO, not explicitly enough:
>>
>> ** Emacs now supports being built with pure GTK.
>> To use this option, make sure the GTK 3 and Cairo development files
>> are installed, and configure Emacs with the option '--with-pgtk'.
>> Unlike the default X and GTK build, the resulting Emacs binary will
>> work on any underlying window system supported by GDK, such as
>> Wayland and Broadway.
>>
>> No matter how many times I re-read this, I fail to understand that it
>> tells me not to use it on X, and it definitely doesn't warn me of any
>> downsides if I do. A word of warning is definitely in order there.
>
> Yes, I would agree.
>
> This is likely going to be problematic. A number of GNU Linux distros
> are now defaulting to Wayland (e.g. fedora) and others have flagged
> tgheir intention to follow suit (Ubuntu, Debian).
>
> Where this could become problematic is if distro maintainers don't
> realise there are downsides with a pgtk build under X. In this
> situation, they are likely to only bundle a pgtk and non-GUI versions
> rather than a pgtk, X and non-GUI versions.
>
> If we make the issues associated with pgtk, X and input methods
> explicit, distributions which want to support wayland and X will be more
> likely to include both wayland (pgtk) and X binary packages.
>
> As distributions which do support wayland typically also make it easy to
> select/switch desktop environments, it is probably also important users
> are aware of the input method issues with pgtk under X as it means that
> when they switch from wayland to X, they also need to know to switch
> which build of Emacs they run. Failure to adequately communicate this
> will likely result in numerous unresolvable bug reports.
>
--
Thanks,
--Raman(I Search, I Find, I Misplace, I Research)
?7?4 Id: kg:/m/0285kf1 ?0?8
- with-pgtk: C-; turns into plain ';', T.V Raman, 2022/02/14
- Re: with-pgtk: C-; turns into plain ';', Po Lu, 2022/02/14
- Re: with-pgtk: C-; turns into plain ';', Eli Zaretskii, 2022/02/15
- Re: with-pgtk: C-; turns into plain ';', Po Lu, 2022/02/15
- Re: with-pgtk: C-; turns into plain ';', Eli Zaretskii, 2022/02/15
- Re: with-pgtk: C-; turns into plain ';', Po Lu, 2022/02/15
- Re: with-pgtk: C-; turns into plain ';', Eli Zaretskii, 2022/02/15
- Re: with-pgtk: C-; turns into plain ';', Tim Cross, 2022/02/15
- Re: with-pgtk: C-; turns into plain ';', Po Lu, 2022/02/15
- Re: with-pgtk: C-; turns into plain ';', Tim Cross, 2022/02/15
- Re: with-pgtk: C-; turns into plain ';',
T.V Raman <=
- Re: with-pgtk: C-; turns into plain ';', Tim Cross, 2022/02/16
- Re: with-pgtk: C-; turns into plain ';', Po Lu, 2022/02/16
- Re: with-pgtk: C-; turns into plain ';', Tassilo Horn, 2022/02/16
- Re: with-pgtk: C-; turns into plain ';', Po Lu, 2022/02/16
- Re: with-pgtk: C-; turns into plain ';', Tassilo Horn, 2022/02/16
- Re: with-pgtk: C-; turns into plain ';', Po Lu, 2022/02/16
- Re: with-pgtk: C-; turns into plain ';', Tassilo Horn, 2022/02/16
- Re: with-pgtk: C-; turns into plain ';', Po Lu, 2022/02/16
- Re: with-pgtk: C-; turns into plain ';', Tassilo Horn, 2022/02/17
- Re: with-pgtk: C-; turns into plain ';', T.V Raman, 2022/02/17