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[Gnu-arch-users] Why MUAs remain broken (was reply-to foo) to the old ma
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Tom Lord |
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[Gnu-arch-users] Why MUAs remain broken (was reply-to foo) to the old mailing list |
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Sat, 23 Aug 2003 08:27:04 -0700 (PDT) |
Why does this issue generate flames -- even personal _policies_ of
flaming -- even epithats such as "lazy, uncooperative developers of
the broken software" -- rather than 100 lines of patches to Evolution?
Maybe it's factors like:
*) Setting up a development environment for it is difficult, time
consuming, and resource intensive. I doubt that it could be
done practically on my system, for example.
*) These particular kinds of changes require too much work to
implement. It's not very fun work, either, because so much of it
involves a heavy edit-compile-debug cycle using a low-level
language rather than just interacting with a high-level
interpreter.
*) These particular kinds of changes are useless unles they are
accepted into the mainline. And not just any mainline: a mainline
that is owned by a particular company, with its own particular
agenda.
*) These particular kinds of changes are useless to most of even
the technical subset of the user community until they appear
in a distribution.
*) Even when they are in a distribution, these particular kinds of
changes are useless unless you upgrade to obtain them, and
even then, since they are intertwingled with other changes,
the choice to upgrade or not is not an easy one.
*) Few people have the time or incentive to make this kind of
change. If you're employed to work on this software, it
seems to me unlikely your employer will see a change like this
as anything more than a one-pointer for clearing a bug-db
item. It certainly isn't going to help sell desktops to
municipalities or fortune 500 companies, right? Do you think
when you go to a dev-team meeting the manager says "Hey,
about this reply-commands foo" or do you think he says "Hey,
about the latest release of Microsoft Exchange...."
Well, maybe if the dev team gets sufficiently embarassed about
it that mgt. has to throw them a bone -- I guess there's something
to that policy of flaming, after all.
With both software architecture and business model, we've created a
situation in which, given the choice between adding a conceptually
simple feature to an MUA or developing a _policy_ of flaming endlessly
on multiple lists, competent hackers are chosing to flame. That's
what the magic cauldron has cooked up in this case: ill-will, time
wasting, and no hacking whatsoever. Having set-out to make
stone-soup, we've produced mud-stew.
Which is a fine creek to have got up because while the unix vendors
we're busy displacing used to be able to employ a _superset_ of the
hackers needed to work on their core product, the free software
industry is nowadays premised on hiring a _subset_ and getting the
rest of the labor for free.
At least for the technical part of the community of users, wouldn't a
boilerplate reply like "here, put this code in your .evolution file"
be better than a boilerplate flame? Ok, let's all warp back to 1993
and, this time, think a little more carefully about the choices we
make.
-t
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] fixing the problem of posting to the old mailing list, (continued)
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] fixing the problem of posting to the old mailing list, Mark A. Flacy, 2003/08/22
- [Gnu-arch-users] Re: fixing the problem of posting to the old mailing list, Miles Bader, 2003/08/19
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] fixing the problem of posting to the old mailing list, Jim Dabell, 2003/08/19
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: [arch-users] fixing the problem of posting to the old mailing list, Stephen J. Turnbull, 2003/08/19
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: [arch-users] fixing the problem of posting to the old mailing list, Tom Lord, 2003/08/22
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: [arch-users] fixing the problem of posting to the old mailing list, Stephen J. Turnbull, 2003/08/23
- [Gnu-arch-users] Why MUAs remain broken (was reply-to foo) to the old mailing list,
Tom Lord <=
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Why MUAs remain broken (was reply-to foo) to the old mailing list, Andrew Suffield, 2003/08/23
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Why MUAs remain broken, Stephen J. Turnbull, 2003/08/25
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Why MUAs remain broken, Jonathan Walther, 2003/08/25
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Why MUAs remain broken, Stephen J. Turnbull, 2003/08/26
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