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Re: Call for 1.2 installer testing.


From: Efraim Flashner
Subject: Re: Call for 1.2 installer testing.
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2020 12:48:52 +0300

On Sun, Oct 11, 2020 at 05:23:30PM +1100, Brendan Tildesley wrote:
> Hi, I went through the installer looking for anything negative I could say
> about it :) hope there is something helpful here:
> 
> 
> Unrelated driver bug: installer was just a black screen until I rebooted
> with nomodeset:  https://paste.debian.net/1166581/
> Even with nomodeset, I get an error about no UMS supported in radeon, but it
> doesn't stop anything.
> 
> 
> Languages listed in the language selection are sometimes in English, Rarely
> in the native language. What's the difference between "Mandarin Chinese" and
> "Chinese"?. I guess this just requires translation data. The names of
> languages in their respective languages is something that already exists in
> a million different projects already, can we just copy them in?
> Even when choosing Mandarin Chinese, nothing in the installer is in
> Mandarin. I guess one also needs to choose the final system language too.
> Random thought: could we adapt the installer to use the same sentences from
> an existing installer, like the ubuntu one, so that all the translations can
> be copied in for free? All the basic quesions like please choose a password
> are surely shared between these installers.
> 
> The installer allows choosing the installation USB its self as a target,
> which I imagine would result in a disaster? People can shoot themselves in
> the foot if they want I guess?

Having somewhat recently played with them, I don't remember if Debian
allows that, I'm pretty sure NetBSD does. In any case, that's exactly
what I would want on an ARM device.

> No indication of what buttons one needs to use what: space, enter, tab, nor
> that there are other TTYs with documentation and how to get to them.
> 
> Enter selects and takes you to the next line when its an input box, but it
> does not select and take you out of it to the button below if it is the
> bottom most checkbox. one must then move to the tab button.
> 
> Down arrow in a checkbox list takes you down to the bottom of the list, but
> then it will not jump out to the button below. It does take you from Ok to
> Exit though, like left-right, but it wont cross the barriers.
> 
> space doesnt select menu items, but does select and move down checkbox
> lists, and selects buttons
> 
> I found my self switching between enter, tab, and space to get through, by
> going of intuition and thinking "do what i mean".
> 
> Perhaps Esc should escape when it makes sense.
> 
> 
> After getting through the install with encrypted root, The install finally
> fails trying to install grub with:
> 
> |Installing for i386-pc platform. grub-install: warning: this GPT partition
> label contains no BIOS Boot Partition; embedding won't be possible.
> grub-install: error: embedding is not possible, but this is required for
> RAID and LVM install. |
> 
> 

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