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Re: machine owner (was: Re: Challenge: Find potential use cases for non-


From: Bas Wijnen
Subject: Re: machine owner (was: Re: Challenge: Find potential use cases for non-trivial confinement)
Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 23:57:45 +0200
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On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 07:56:46PM +0200, address@hidden wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 06:21:11PM +0200, Pierre THIERRY wrote:
> > Scribit Bas Wijnen dies 01/05/2006 hora 14:09:
> 
> > > I wrote at least twice already that the primary space bank is *not*
> > > owned by the system administrator.  It is owned by the TCB, which is
> > > an entity itself.
> > 
> > So let's rephrase: it follows immediately that the machine owner can
> > inspect all storage, |...]
> 
> Yes, if he installed a variant of the OS that contains a backdoor in the
> TCB. (This is true regardless whether we have constructors or not.)

Or didn't use a TC chip to encrypt his hard disk, and inspects it externally
(that is, from some other OS instance).

> This is one thing the TPM is supposed to make harder, on the premise
> that the user can check what variant of the OS exactly is installed. Too
> bad it is not really feasible in an overwhelming majority of situations
> in practice.

I'm actually quite happy about that. :-)

Thanks,
Bas

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