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Re: [STUMP] Too slow popups with Eclipse


From: malnourite
Subject: Re: [STUMP] Too slow popups with Eclipse
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 11:14:52 -0500
User-agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-11)

On Fri, Oct 12, 2007, Luca Capello wrote:
> I don't see how the following is considered difficult, which doesn't
> even require StumpWM to be compiled (assuming that the CL
> implementation and the dependencies don't have any bug):
> 
>  $ [install StumpWM dependencies]
>  $ /your/cl/implementation
>  * (asdf:oos 'asdf:load-op 'stumpwm)
>  * (stumpwm:stumpwm)
> 
> Thx, bye,
> Gismo / Luca

This is elitist and naive. People expect--and rightfully
so--all window managers to be invokable in the same fashion;
independent of their implementation. Can you name a single
instance of another Debian WM that doesn't provide some form
of executable?

StumpWM need not be a specialist WM reserved only for those
with intimate knowledge of Common Lisp systems. It provides
a UI just like any other WM in its class once you actually
manage to get it up and running.

To say that all one must do is open up some obscure
interpreter and enter magic incantations (which probably
won't even work for various reasons) is absurd and hardly
very helpful.

You're not going to convince me that StumpWM is easy to
install, no matter how much you may have managed to convince
yourself. The fact is, it would be easier to compile, run
and package a WM written in Fortran. We should be working to
improve the situation, rather than sitting on our laurels
saying "Well, it's easy for *ME*."

-- 
Oct 16 2007,
John Moore Liles




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