Re: Is GNUstep Examples maintained?

[David Chisnall]

On 21 Aug 2013, at 07:12, "Sebastian Reitenbach" 
<sebastia@l00-bugdead-prods.de> wrote:

> 
> On Tuesday, August 20, 2013 22:05 CEST, David Chisnall <theraven@sucs.org> 
> wrote: 
> 
>> On 20 Aug 2013, at 20:30, Riccardo Mottola <riccardo.mottola@libero.it> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> David Chisnall wrote:
>>>> We currently publish this:
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.gnustep.org/experience/examples.html
>>>> 
>>>> But it doesn't seem to build anymore.  There's no link to the repository 
>>>> in the web page, and I can't find it in svn.  Is anyone planning or 
>>>> updating it, or should I just delete the FreeBSD port of it?
>>>> 
>>> wait, inside the example there is Ink :) GFractal and GPuzzle work for me 
>>> too, I remember updating the latter, IIRC. GSTest compiled and worked no 
>>> longer than 2 weeks ago.
>>> 
>>> I'll try, but if you can give what's wrong at your place we can keep them 
>>> from bittrotting (which would be good, even if you don't want the FreeBSD 
>>> package, potential user want working examples, broken ones are of no good).
>> 
>> The errors I was hitting were in CalcBrain.m, which is doing the pre-NeXT 
>> thing of declaring instance variables inside @implementation contexts, which 
>> is now allowed in the non-fragile ABI for declaring private ivars and so 
>> results in an error with things being declared twice.
> 
> This CalcBrain.m problem is fixed in SVN, the rest is compiling fine.

Great!  Now we just need a release...

>> I think some of this stuff may have been fixed in svn, but there's been no 
>> release.  This is true of a great many things that we are shipping, in fact. 
>>  Most of the things on the downloads page on the GNUstep web site don't 
>> actually build with the latest GNUstep release, which is quite embarrassing.
> 
> Yeah, that's also stopped me in the past to upgrade the GNUstep ports [1] in 
> OpenBSD to use clang/libobjc2 with non-fragile-abi. 
> Over the time, most of the the GNUstep ports in the ports tree build with the 
> new setup. The only remaining problems I have:
> * gnustep-examples (fixed in svn, but no new release)
> * matharray (from gnustep-non-fsf, non-fragile-abi problems, fixed in svn, 
> but no new release)
> * PDFKit (GAP, but this is marked as broken since xpdf upgrade to 2.03 
> anyways, so no real issue for me, but we're just discussing it with Riccardo 
> and Richard Stonehouse)
> * www/sope [2] , www/sogo [3] (using lots of old and deprecated functions, 
> see my bug reports, this is not fixed yet)

The Performance framework also doesn't build with the latest release of 
GNUstep, and we have at least one consumer of it in the ports tree.

> To upgrade the OpenBSD ports tree to use clang/libobjc2 with non-fragile-abi, 
> I could mark gnustep-examples and matharray as broken, but I don't want to do 
> that with www/sope and www/sogo. There are too many people out there having 
> SOGo instances deployed in production on OpenBSD, I don't want to make them 
> angry ;)
> 
>> From the sogo mailing list I know that there are some people working on a 
>> FreeBSD port for it. When you change to use clang/libobjc2 they will run 
>> into the same trouble like me on OpenBSD.
> I can look up their e-mail addresses from the m/l if you want to get in 
> contact with them, if you aren't already.
> Note that the patches to sope/sogo bug reports I had attached there, break 
> heavily. I have a better patch for sogo, but not yet uploaded, but sope is 
> more complicated to me.

I did have SOGo building on FreeBSD with the non-fragile ABI about a year ago 
and I sent back the patches.  I don't know what the current status is.

David

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