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Re: Outsourcing issue flares up at Stanford chip conference

From: Tim Jowers
Subject: Re: Outsourcing issue flares up at Stanford chip conference
Date: 31 Aug 2004 10:33:18 -0700

Zalek Bloom <> wrote in message 
> On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 23:24:18 +0000, David Fabian wrote:
> > "ziliath" <> wrote in message 
> >">
> >>
> > 
> > Excerpt:
> > 
> >     "I think outsourcing is good for Americans, it creates jobs in America,"
> >     said T. J. Rodgers, founder, president and chief executive officer of
> >     Cypress Semiconductor Corp.
> > 
> > He is either a liar or a complete idiot, who would give away his money,
> > while thinking he is getting richer.
> I think he is right - replacing American workers by cheap foreign
> workers (called outsourcing) is excellent for America - for
> rich America. Replacing American $80k/year engineer by $5k Indian engineer
> saves corporation $75k/year - which means bigger bonuses for corporate
> management. And not only big management gains - they can spend more
> money on lobbying the Senate and Congress - that means our politicians
> gain too.
> And the truth is that American voters overwhelmingly support this trend
> - about 80% of them will be voting for Bush/Kerry team - both support
> replacing American workers by cheap foreigners.
> Zalek

Did the CEO of Cypress at least get booed? Or thrown to the curb?

Zalek, you are not kidding! I read all over and the only
positive thing I can come up with is that they promise to STOP TAX
BREAKS for companies that move work overseas! Wow, what kinda BS
politicians are running this country that they have given tax breaks
to ENCOURAGE shutting down plants in the USA? Kerry has an outstanding
letter requesting his position on OFFSHORING and VISA ABUSES but hsa
taken no position (He and Edwards DID vote to raise H1B to 800k we all
know.) Well, I tried to track this issue with my Congressional
candidates too since Congress levies the taxes. Hollings is retiring
and not one other candidate will speak out for American jobs so far!!!
Hell, one of my senators, Joe Wilson, is the Co-Chair of the India
Caucus!!!! Talk about some bullshit. 1 in 7 people in South Carolina
live in poverty and we have a senator working to send jobs to India.

My theory is that large groups react slowly but forcefully; so, in a
few years what we think now will be accepted widely. A few weeks ago I
emailed a request to an SC tech group to lobby the SC Employment
Security Commission and eventually the Department of Labor so all H1 
and L1 jobs be listed on public well-known job sites so Americans can
apply and do you know what? Three people emailed me saying they don't
support my political views!!! One person emailed that her tech company
had been all but wiped out by cheap foreign labor.

What is happening is that the US Government wants to drive inflation
through immigration but in turn they are driving poverty (fact) as
Americans are replaced by immigrants who themselves are barely earning
enough to escape poverty and certainly not enough to raise a family
and thrive.

You have to be a masochist to vote for Bush but Kerry has been in
Congress 20 years so how much better is he? We cannot campaign for him
as he will not state a position on VISA ABUSES and has only stated the
weakest position on OFFSHORING.

My observation,

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